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Dalbello Boots: KR 2 PRO vs KR 2 Fusion

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

Hello,

 

If someone really familiar with Dalbello boots, could this person, please, tell me if I am guessing this correctly.

Both boots are almost the same: 98 mm

but the difference is in flex: 130 vs. 120.

Dalbello configures/set it flex via the what they call "Kinetic Response Tongue"

 

Is this possible, by replacing the tongue in KR 2 Fusion, the flex could be changed to either 130 or 110?

Also, Fusion has replaceable toes and heels, where KR 2 Pro doesn't. (is there a possibility to install vibram toes and heels replacements?)

 

Am I missing something between these 2 boots?

 

Thank you

 

post #2 of 10

How much do you weigh? At 140# I find the 90 flex of the KR2 Cores to be just right. But, I don't run gates. There are two wedge-like inserts that can be put in to either of two positions to stiffen the flex by degrees. I haven't messed with that, though I did with my previous Krypton Rampages. I go everywhere on the mountain in my Cores the way they are. Stiffness should be determined by your weight, skiier type, and purpose. It otherwise, in these three models, is not necessarily an indicator of quality. Strictly speaking, I would think that the tongues can be replaced, but you likely would need to get them from Dalbello USA. I didn't know the Pro had non-replaceable sole inserts. The models that do have them can be exchanged for Vibram. I haven't done that.

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

I am easily pushing 200 lb (but hope to get back to 180+). Not that I really need 130 flex ( I really don't think so)

But 110 or 120 should be ok, I am guessing.

By looking at the site pictures

KR 2 PRO: http://www.dalbello.it/en/product-kr_2_pro-90

KR 2 Fusion: http://www.dalbello.it/en/product-kr_2_fusion-95

 

I see Fusion with replaceable toes/heels where KR 2 Pro is not (I would assume so)

I really don't need flex 130 (not a racer, nor KR 2 pro is a racer's boot), so wondering if that boot has an ability to go to softer flex.

 

other boots from Dalbello which I would want to try are: Panterra 120 and KR 2 Core ( I think it really similar to Fusion with softer flex 110)

 

(Again, all of the above doesn't mean that I would buy the boot from www, it just means, I am trying to collect some ideas, so I would know what to ask in the store and see how it would work)

post #4 of 10

With the KR2 models, you can start from out of the box and go stiffer, not the other way around. I actually called Dalbello USA and spoke with Matt, who offered that the Fusion, for me, was probably not worth the extra hundred dollars or so. But I asked a bunch of leading questions. YMMV. I do like to buy a spare set of sole inserts, even though I use Cat Tracks religiously. I haven't gotten around to buying the inserts for my Cores.

post #5 of 10

Phil and Beyond have discussed the differences in the Dalbello Krypton and Fusion  models in the gear discussion forum.  Take a look there.  As I recall the Krypton boot, not just the tongue, has more beef than the Fusion model.

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

I went to boot-fitter yesterday at the local ski shop.

Indeed my ski boots are too big (size 28 where my feet size is 27.5, on top of that, but this is minor, my feet width is between A and B, which probably good for 98 boot and my current boots are 100).

I had tried both Dalbello KR 2 PRO and Dalbello KR 2 Fusion and have not noticed any difference in the comfort or fit.

Does this really make sense to pay extra $100 for PRO or Fusion would do just fine?

post #7 of 10

IMO, Fusion would be fine. See Post #4 above. For that matter, Core would probably be just fine. At 200#, much depends on how aggressive a skier you are. If you trust the boot fitter, you might best go with his recommendation. That would be better than any of us on the forums.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post

Is this possible, by replacing the tongue in KR 2 Fusion, the flex could be changed to either 130 or 110?

Also, Fusion has replaceable toes and heels, where KR 2 Pro doesn't. (is there a possibility to install vibram toes and heels replacements?)

Have the Fusions. The tongue it comes with = 120. Stiffer tongue from the K2 makes it 130, yep. You have to order it, costs about $60. Yes, replaceable pads, but good luck getting the Vibrams; I ordered them a year ago, they never showed, factory told my shop that there were "production shortages." Maybe that's changed. The off-shelf plastic pads are OK, but still slippery compared to Vibram. 

 

If you want the pads and 120 flex, then go with the Fusions. If you don't place a high priority on either, the K2 Pro off the shelf gives you the 130 flex, same last, nearly same shell (Josh claims it's bit thicker, even though same flex with stiff tongue), and the stiffer boot board (Fusion has softer one). 

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

Ok, Fusion as is. It is $100 cheaper, and not sure if 120 vs 130 flex will do any difference, what I mean, my current boots are 100 flex (plus boots are old, so it could be even little bit higher...) (if that makes any difference, because each manufacturer have it's own definition of flex), but I guess 120 is going to be a big step up for me as is.

I've never had a Vibrams on any boots, so I can not comment on this(benefit or disadvantage).

Replaceable pads is a good option but again not really a priority to have, but if fusion has it, then it is a plus

 

Thank you everyone for your responses.

 

P.S. oh I forgot to mention that kr 2 pro sells with 2 tongues 110 and 130....

post #10 of 10

I think you will be very happy with them, particularly with a width A-B foot in the 98mm last. Going down one shell size also will have benefits in terms of responsiveness. 

 

Oh, before considering additional tongue choices, either have the boot fitter show you the stiffness wedges I mentioned above, or read the instructions for their use. You have basically 4 choices for stiffening the flex.

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