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We will be arriving in Jackson on Saturday and for the past week they have been stuck in a High Pressure cycle.  Unfortunately for us this doesn't look like it will end next week either.  This happened to us last time we were there, but neither my wife or I were the level of skier we are now so we spent almost all our time on groomers anyway. 

 

So I was wondering what the other bears out there would recommend for skiing some of Jackson's more challenging runs while also not having to deal with boilerplate and crud (we get enough of that in WNY)?

 

Thanks.

post #2 of 10
There's a guide to JH on this site, have you had a chance to look at it? It's really excellent.

Personally, I like taking the Tram up in the AM, then lapping Thunder and Sublette until I get bushed and then head over to Casper to see if there's anything left in the trees. But, there are so many great spots there.
post #3 of 10
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Yes I have read it, and while that is the general game plan I was wondering what others experience  has been and what they may have learned.

 

Best thing about forums like this, shared knowledge.

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We will be arriving in Jackson on Saturday and for the past week they have been stuck in a High Pressure cycle.  Unfortunately for us this doesn't look like it will end next week either.  This happened to us last time we were there, but neither my wife or I were the level of skier we are now so we spent almost all our time on groomers anyway. 

 

So I was wondering what the other bears out there would recommend for skiing some of Jackson's more challenging runs while also not having to deal with boilerplate and crud (we get enough of that in WNY)?

 

Thanks.

 

Not sure what you define as crud, but there's very little of what I would call crud right now.  Almost all of the slopes - groomed and ungroomed - presently have firm snow.  Nearly everywhere that hasn't been groomed has started to develop moguls, which range from small and easily skied through big and fast and difficult.

 

It's also hard to make general recommendations without knowing how good the two of you are and how comfortable you are with firm conditions and moguls.

 

What I can tell you is the places I think are skiing the "best" right now and you can go from there:

 

Gannett run and Thunder run off the Thunder chair are both skiing great.  Gannett has moderate moguls, Thunder was groomed two days ago and the bumps haven't really built back up yet.  I would HIGHLY recommend skiing Gannett to determine how comfortable you are in those conditions.

 

IF you felt good on Gannett, then here are several other recommendations:

 

Riverton Bowl (just skier's-left of Gannett)

 

Cheyenne Bowl (off the Sublette chair)

 

Skier's-right side of Laramie Bowl (Sublette chair) is really, really good.

 

Middle Casper Bowl (hard skier's left on a traverse about 50 yards downhill from the top of the Gondola.

 

Rendezvous Bowl off the top of the tram (firm but very edgeable snow and still very smooth for a run that gets so much traffic). Unfortunately, the top part is very rocky from all the wind scouring so look ahead until you get onto the main body of the bowl.

 

Toilet Bowl (off Thunder chair). The bowl itself is skiing GREAT but getting into it is challenging. Best entered by a traverse through the trees on the right side of Rag Run.

 

If all of that stuff feels okay to you, then the Hobacks and Lower Faces are skiing very well. I'm particularly enjoying the skier's-left side of Lower Sublette Ridge and the skier's-leftish side of South Hoback.  Also, skier's-right side of Buffalo Bowl is excellent but the exit from the bottom of the gully is brushy. 

 

All of the regularly-groomed runs are skiing extremely well.  Easy Does It, Sundog, Sleeping Indian, and Wide Open have all been outstanding.

 

And not to give you any false hope or anything, but it IS snowing very lightly outside my window right now.  Almost nothing is forecast for tonight and then we go back into the clear and cold pattern again, but there are a few snowflakes coming down right now.

 

Have fun.

post #5 of 10

You could also consider hiring one of the Alpine Guides for a day.  I highly, highly recommend them.

 

EpicSki's own segbrown and her friend were here the last couple of days and we skied a run in the nearby out of bounds yesterday.  Here are some turns they had:

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by tedders55 View Post
 

We will be arriving in Jackson on Saturday and for the past week they have been stuck in a High Pressure cycle.  Unfortunately for us this doesn't look like it will end next week either.  This happened to us last time we were there, but neither my wife or I were the level of skier we are now so we spent almost all our time on groomers anyway. 

 

So I was wondering what the other bears out there would recommend for skiing some of Jackson's more challenging runs while also not having to deal with boilerplate and crud (we get enough of that in WNY)?

 

Thanks.

Just finished my second day ever at JH.  My two ski buddies and I are having a good time.  Certainly no regrets on planning the trip months ago.  Here's what we are doing:

 

* Did our own "tour" on Day 1, starting on Apres Vous and worked our way over to Casper, the gondola, the Tram.  Also took the Sublette and Thunder lifts, as well as Marmot.  It was a blue bird day so that gave us a good feel for the place.  Did a mix of groomers, bowls, and a few tree runs.  First day at high altitude for two of us, so weren't pushing too hard.

 

*  Day 2 started with an early start 4-hour private lesson for three people.  Great value!  PM me if you want to know more.

 

*  We did Hobacks with the instructor.  Nice to have a guide for the first time.  Definitely nice snow to be found over there.

 

*  Will ski JH tomorrow based on what we've leared so far.

 

*  Doing a day trip to Grand Targhee at the end of the week.

 

Where else have you skied out west?

post #7 of 10

Bob, you're one lucky guy! ;)

You and Phipug......you know how to attract 'em!

 

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You could also consider hiring one of the Alpine Guides for a day.  I highly, highly recommend them.

 

EpicSki's own segbrown and her friend were here the last couple of days and we skied a run in the nearby out of bounds yesterday.  Here are some turns they had:

 

 

 

 

post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 

Bob,

 

Thanks for your review that was really what I was looking for.  We have been to JH about 5 years ago, but that was our first trip out west so the whole thing was overwhelming to say the least.  So we do have some idea what we are getting into, but also looking to challenge ourselves as well. 

 

We are all (there is actually another couple besides my wife and I) pretty good racers, but I have never seen the other couple do bumps so Gannett is probably a good idea to see how comfortable they are in them, hell this is their first trip out west...  We have been to Telluride, Vail/BC, and Big Sky.  Big Sky was where we really tested ourselves, spent a lot of time skiing off Shedhorn and Dakota, also over by Challenger. 

 

Also, really hoping that the latest weather report hold and we do get snow next week.  Just hope we can make it out of Cleveland on Saturday!!

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Bob,

 

Thanks for your review that was really what I was looking for.  We have been to JH about 5 years ago, but that was our first trip out west so the whole thing was overwhelming to say the least.  So we do have some idea what we are getting into, but also looking to challenge ourselves as well. 

 

We are all (there is actually another couple besides my wife and I) pretty good racers, but I have never seen the other couple do bumps so Gannett is probably a good idea to see how comfortable they are in them, hell this is their first trip out west...  We have been to Telluride, Vail/BC, and Big Sky.  Big Sky was where we really tested ourselves, spent a lot of time skiing off Shedhorn and Dakota, also over by Challenger. 

 

Also, really hoping that the latest weather report hold and we do get snow next week.  Just hope we can make it out of Cleveland on Saturday!!

 

I can't help but think you'll be just fine with the skiing.  Race background would be PERFECT for the conditions we have right now.  As for the forecast, whatever you're reading sounds a lot more optimistic than what I'm seeing.  

 

Whichever way it goes is fine with me - if it snows we have powder, if it doesn't we might continue to have what I think are fantastic conditions and almost no one else is on the hill!.

 

Here are a couple of inbounds photos from today of a ski school client I had. It was a very fun day.

 

Rendezvous Bowl:

 

 

 

North Hoback:

 

 

 

Laramie Bowl:

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Originally Posted by tedders55 View Post
 

Bob,

 

Thanks for your review that was really what I was looking for.  We have been to JH about 5 years ago, but that was our first trip out west so the whole thing was overwhelming to say the least.  So we do have some idea what we are getting into, but also looking to challenge ourselves as well. 

 

We are all (there is actually another couple besides my wife and I) pretty good racers, but I have never seen the other couple do bumps so Gannett is probably a good idea to see how comfortable they are in them, hell this is their first trip out west...  We have been to Telluride, Vail/BC, and Big Sky.  Big Sky was where we really tested ourselves, spent a lot of time skiing off Shedhorn and Dakota, also over by Challenger. 

 

Also, really hoping that the latest weather report hold and we do get snow next week.  Just hope we can make it out of Cleveland on Saturday!!

 

I can't help but think you'll be just fine with the skiing.  Race background would be PERFECT for the conditions we have right now.  As for the forecast, whatever you're reading sounds a lot more optimistic than what I'm seeing.  

 

Whichever way it goes is fine with me - if it snows we have powder, if it doesn't we might continue to have what I think are fantastic conditions and almost no one else is on the hill!.

 

Here are a couple of inbounds photos from today of a ski school client I had. It was a very fun day.

 

Rendezvous Bowl:

 

 

 

North Hoback:

 

 

 

Laramie Bowl:


Ohh I'm probably being overly optimistic about getting snow, but hope springs enternal when a flatlander comes west. 

 

That is the one thing I do remember about the last time we were there ... there never seems to be anyone out there!!  No other trip has left me feeling like I am the only one on the mountain like JH.

 

Getting out there may be an issue.  We are expecting 4-8" between tonight and Sat. evening.  Hope they push us out bright an early at 6AM tomorrow.

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