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Skied Sunday River 2 days this weekend plus a little bit of night skiing both days...it's a small miracle I made it out of the place whole!

 

I've gotten to the point in which I'm willing to move along at a good clip and put them on edge on trustworthy snow (as best I know how!) - but it was a weekend full of cautious / nerve racking / stressful runs! Ice EVERYWHERE, especially later in the day - lots of skidding down blacks and blues.

 

I have a resort snow conditions / base app on my phone - they ought to make one for how icy the damn place is!

 

I also got to thinking - I usually snub my nose at southern New York / New Jersey / Poconos mountains...but maybe it's better when the rain comes to wipe EVERYTHING out and then start all over again with a good snow storm and just try to time it right - almost beats playing Russian Roulette skiing at Whiteface or Killington! 

post #2 of 11
Go west.
post #3 of 11
I was there. It was very icy, even by local standards. I was glad I tuned my skis the night before, and I'm glad I like ice. (At least the porous gray kind. The shiny glare patches, not so much.)

It was pretty predictable though, given the stupid 60 degree temperature swings we have been having lately.
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Go west.

Doesn't work...I was at Lake Louise last Sunday and it was icy too. 

post #5 of 11
East coast level ice? We've a bit of hard pack here, but nothing you can't get an edge in. 95% groomed snow on the groomers. Decidedly firm lumps off piste unless the day warms up. Need some snow to cover the lumps. Rocks are well covered, though.
post #6 of 11
Lapping White Heat late in the day was a lot of fun. The combination of the conditions and the football game emptied it out, and most runs I was the only one on it. Perfect for big sweeping high speed turns. (Well, it felt fast. gps says only 35-ish.)

As the last few hackers were clearing out of my run, I thought about freeski's comment over in the snowboarderes at alta thread. When an over-terrained snowboarder does a heel-side skid down the whole pitch, it is pretty obvious. The equivalent over-terrained skier does a static skid for awhile,flipps, braces, and does a static skid on the other side. The skier looks a little better, because a) he moves once in awhile, and b) his edge is 70 degrees to the direction of movement instead of 90. If you aren't thinking about it, it isn't obvious that they are doing essentially the same thing.

Tcc, this last isn't directed at you. Sure, you have plenty to learn, but I saw plenty of skiers way worse yesterday. And Sib is right...go West. It is amazing what altitude can do.
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Mike you're right - I'm guilty of that. But give me the same trail in good snow and I would be doing much less of that. No way to know unless I go down the trail. And I'm just not confident enough to attempt normal carving turns and build up speed with so much hard ice on a trail - one oops and I could really get injured.

 

For example, last year I did White Nitro at Sugarloaf - a double black - and I did much less skidding - but there was consistent snow on it that I could get an edge on most of the way down.

 

It's funny, I'm worried about getting hurt on ice - I'm probably more likely to get hurt on snow I feel invincible and fearless on - I'm willing to let myself build up far more speed on that.

post #8 of 11

The three stages of Eastern skiing:

  1. Ride the slide
  2. Guide the slide
  3. Hide the slide

 

:cool

 

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Skied Sunday River 2 days this weekend plus a little bit of night skiing both days...it's a small miracle I made it out of the place whole!

 

I've gotten to the point in which I'm willing to move along at a good clip and put them on edge on trustworthy snow (as best I know how!) - but it was a weekend full of cautious / nerve racking / stressful runs! Ice EVERYWHERE, especially later in the day - lots of skidding down blacks and blues.

 

I have a resort snow conditions / base app on my phone - they ought to make one for how icy the damn place is!

 

I also got to thinking - I usually snub my nose at southern New York / New Jersey / Poconos mountains...but maybe it's better when the rain comes to wipe EVERYTHING out and then start all over again with a good snow storm and just try to time it right - almost beats playing Russian Roulette skiing at Whiteface or Killington! 

 

I was skiing Stowe over the MLK weekend and as the day went on, conditions became, shall we say, "challenging".  Get out early and lap things while the groomers are still fresh.  I was calling it quits by noon-time.  Crowded slopes with crappy conditions just isn't worth it.

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I was skiing Stowe over the MLK weekend and as the day went on, conditions became, shall we say, "challenging".  Get out early and lap things while the groomers are still fresh.  I was calling it quits by noon-time.  Crowded slopes with crappy conditions just isn't worth it.

 

No, no, no no, no!

 

EVERYDAY is a powder day at Stowe. Why there's even a TR (in the General Skiing Forum of course :rolleyes) to tell us how there's ALWAYS more powder days at Steaux than the west coast. ALWAYS!

 

Let's see, in mid-Nov there was a count of 3 powder days. I think that's STILL the number. Or maybe I can paraphrase the originator. "we has a good bass and my advise is to hik and anjoy rain cause it good". Something like that anyway.

 

As Sibhusky says - go west. It's not called least coast skiing without reason

post #10 of 11
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I was skiing Stowe over the MLK weekend and as the day went on, conditions became, shall we say, "challenging".  Get out early and lap things while the groomers are still fresh.  I was calling it quits by noon-time.  Crowded slopes with crappy conditions just isn't worth it.


looks like i made the right call on the bus. a different company went to stowe on sunday. SR was not crowded, aside from a few classic choke points and the south ridge chair.

I agree, ice + empty = fun, but ice + crowds = time to give up.
post #11 of 11
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East coast level ice? We've a bit of hard pack here, but nothing you can't get an edge in. 95% groomed snow on the groomers. Decidedly firm lumps off piste unless the day warms up. Need some snow to cover the lumps. Rocks are well covered, though.

Big boilerplate patches. Really need sharp edges that can cut hands to have grip on. 

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