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Terrain Park Right of Way?

post #1 of 7
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I am doing a Freestyle 1 Clinic/Exam later this week and came across the following question in the workbook-

 

If a skier/rider starts at the top of a terrain park and flows through, hitting all features in his line and then comes to a feature being hiked by a fellow rider over and over again, who has the right of way? How is this similar and/or different from your Responsibility Code? 

 

There was some discussion of this in 2005 http://www.epicski.com/t/24857/terrain-park-etiquette/30 but no consensus answer.  I don't see a clear answer at http://www.nsaa.org/safety-programs/smart-style/   

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http://www.terrainparksafety.org/, but maybe I missed it.  

 

Under the responsibility code, it seems as if both would be "ahead" of each other (assuming the hiker is heading uphill at the time in question).  

 

Common sense to me that the hiker should be hiking to the side in a place that allows others to utilize the feature while they are hiking up- This would seem to roughly correlate to not stopping where you are not visible from above.  If the hiker does that, is there really an issue with who has the right of way to use the feature (or is the question aimed at getting the hiker to the side rather than who is actually using the feature). 


Edited by MEfree30 - 1/20/14 at 9:12am
post #2 of 7

What type of uphill traffic policy does the resort have? That is where I would start. I thought most mountains have some thing like that and maybe if they let people in the parks hike on the sides against the tree line those people would have to look up hill and wait their turn to merge into a feature.

post #3 of 7
I guess it depends on the moment the top to bottom skier comes to the feature that the hiker is hitting. The hiker would need to be stopped at a safe place above the feature and look uphill to give way to existing downhill traffic, so unless the hiker is moving, the top to bottom skier would have right of way. If the hiker looks uphill and doesn't see or hear the top to bottom skier and starts downhill to hit the feature, and the top to bottom skier comes off a jump or feature and sees the hiker (now downhill skier) then it would be up to top to bottom skier to give way and avoid the feature and/or potential collision.
post #4 of 7

IMO: seems like a hiker is moving so slowly, he’s essentially stopped.  Since the hiker is essentially stopped, I think the moving skier has a responsibility to avoid. 

 

The hiker should stay in places he is visible from above for safety.  The hiker should also not obstruct the trail which seems to include the obligation not to hike in a path that obstructs the jump.

post #5 of 7

What if the hiker is hiking back up the LZ to get a ski?  That is a bit different...

 

The park I was skiing in yesterday had two resort staff employees standing at the top of the larger jumps with blind LZs flagging people off when it wasn't clear for whatever reason.

 

Ordinarily you watch the person ahead of you to be sure you see them pop up visibly further down the run after each jump and blind landing.  That way you can be sure that they aren't crashed in the LZ as you are approaching.

 

Back to the original question.. If there is some person training over and over on one of the features they should have made an agreement with the people using the park as a whole top to bottom.  A coach or resort staff should stick some poles in the run designating the feature as offline for training purposes

post #6 of 7
After watching the Smart Style video again http://www.nsaa.org/safety-programs/smart-style/, it refrences the code, give way to riders below you, and check uphill and call your drop before getting into the features. The section of the video is 3:45 - 4:45. Sounds like everyone is on the same page, but I guess it's hard to cite a specific source for the test. I would cite the code and that video.
post #7 of 7

The skier/rider flowing has right of way. It links back to the point in the Responsibility Code which states that when starting out, you must yield to traffic in motion. It also has to do with Smart Style, Look Before You Leap. Assuming there is one skier hiking a feature, and one flowing through the line, and both skiers are to hit a feature at the same time, it stands to reason that the flowing skier will already be in motion from the previous feature, while the hiker has not set off yet. Therefore, it is the responsibility of the hiker to watch for the other skier in the line, and yield to him.

 

The exception to this would be if the hiker is hiking the first feature of the line. If that is the case, both the hiker and the one running the whole line should be stopped at the initial drop-in, and would have to call their drop either verbally, or by unspoken assent.

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