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No Love Sub 80 waist Vail Demos

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Got in late yesterday afternoon and went to a couple ski shops looking to demo the Head Rally. The shop people thought I was nuts and told me the would never recommend a ski for skiing Vail lower than a 80 waist.

One guy told me his daily ski here was 117 waisted. Anyway it has not snowed here since Monday and its dry all this coming week. Another example of skis matching conditions you hope for (powder) vs reality.

Thought it was kind of interesting and acknowledge the shops need to have what the average customer wants . I brought my Peak 90 out for this trip and like this ski a lot really. The guy I am here with has 2 pair of Cham 107 I left mine at home, in case I succumb to peer pressure he will let me use a pair he has.
post #2 of 9

Vail has always been know to follow fashion trends ;)

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dam, that's too bad!  i was in vail 2 years ago and, while one could complain of low snow at that time i suppose, the crowds were also low, which enabled us to ski vail's front side groomers like somebody was chasing us and ski patrol never even spoke to us much less cried foul.  i've not had that much fun on my kastle 78's since! 

 

dave

post #4 of 9

The guy in the shop and the guy with the 117 daily drivers are the answer to what happened to mogul skiing.   

 

Moguls are not going away at Vail.  Even with their enormous fleet of snowcats Vail can only hit a fraction of their 5200 acres each night.  You'll see nice big bumps by the end of the week.  The bowls will be mostly bump runs.  Make sure you drag your friend down HIghline on his 107's a few times, especially toward the end of the week as the bumps get huge and firm... and shoot some video for our entertainment.

 

Enjoy the bluebird days and great snow!  Weeks like this are really fun if you get out early to rip up the corduroy (which will be world class and put a huge smile on your face), and embrace skiing bumps later in the day.

post #5 of 9

I know that True North at Northstar has a selection of demos under 80, but not very many.  In fact they don't carry Head skis at all, which I think is a shame because Head is making some really nice stuff. 

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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post

 The shop people thought I was nuts and told me the would never recommend a ski for skiing Vail lower than a 80 waist.
 

 

On second thought... I kinda agree with a min 80 waist.  The only reason to have sub-80 would be if you just stuck to groomers and/or you stuck to bumps.  What's the point of skiing Vail if you do that?   

 

Unless you are a racer or a comp bump skier, The right 80-90 will be fantastic on Vail's easy to edge groomers, and also nice on a legit bump run like Highline.   The extra width will make the back bowls and trees more fun even without any new snow.  There are always pockets of softer snow/crud early in the year, and slush/refrozen crud later in the year.   The extra width of an 80+ makes a much bigger percentage of the mountain fun to ski, up until about a 100 that will be a lot more work on a bump run like Highline on firm snow.

 

That's why I'm a fan of a 90ish ski.  I think it maximizes the percentage of the mountain that is fun on a week like this since it's pretty darn good in groomers, bumps and crud.

post #7 of 9

Roundturns, 

 

While I would think that a Vail shop that carries Head skis should have a Rally in the demo fleet, my guess is they experience little demand for sub-80 carvers. Do you know if they even carry the Rally in their wall of new skis? The times are a changing....what we eastern hard snow folks appreciate in a narrow ski is no longer in vogue. It's a little ironic that on my last visit at Vail, a real carver was the required ski of the day. I also can't help but think of the recommendation of a 115 ski as a daily driver is very poor advice to the renting public. Shops should coach up their employees much better when it comes to giving a customer value for the $50 fee.

post #8 of 9
I'm betting you can find what you are looking for over at Gorsuch. Spendy yes (5-10 dollars more than other demos) but they should have what you seek. Thought I saw mx78 in there.
post #9 of 9

Try Skihaus on Bridge Street, next to the Lodge

http://www.bridgestreetskihaus.com/

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