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Kastle MX83's

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Why so few reviews for this ski?

 

It seems as though, at least by some, that it's the high water mark for the category.  If that's in fact the case, one would think there would be plenty of online reviews by several different folks.  There are some out there, but not nearly the number you would think.

 

Is the ski that good?  I'm asking from an advanced beginner/intermediate point of view.  One of the comments that seems to pop up now again is that this particular model is as smooth as butter.  I like that!

 

Here's a youtube vid of a kid skiing a pair in NH.

 

I noticed his ski tips were not fluttering at all in his turns.  Is that a characteristic of this ski, or just higher level ski's in general.  My rentals a few weeks ago would chatter quite a bit anytime a put some load on them. 

 

 

 

 

post #2 of 17

There's a good amount of info on this ski here in member reviews. Read through there very long "Holy Cow MX83 Thread".  It is a typical Kastle MX series ski in that its super damp (in a totally good way) precise and versatile (for width) ski. This is a traditional ski; no rip or tail rocker with plenty of camber & tons of energy. It knows no speed limits.   Although its very compliant, I don't think I would put a beginner on it. 

post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

I'll check out that thread, thanks.

 

I was kind of hoping that it would be compliant enough that I could manage it now and then grow into the ski for years to come.  It might be the wrong mindset from my point of view, but I'd pay a little more for a ski, knowing I wouldn't outgrow it for several years (maybe as long as I own it) and more importantly wouldn't be constantly searching for something else.  It would be an end of season purchase, so maybe by then the powers that be would consider my ability "intermediate."  :rolleyes

post #4 of 17
Not really an intermediate ski, but the video proves intermediates can make it work. You might look at the LX series rather than MX. Another ski to grow into would be a Head Rev 85 Pro.
post #5 of 17

It looks the ski in the video is actually the LX82 rather than the MX83. Finndog's assessment of the MX not being well suited for a beginner is pretty fair, but that LX82 on the other hand would be a great choice. It shares many of the characteristics of the MX line but isn't quite as burly. You should easily get years of fun out of that ski. My wife, who is an advanced intermediate, skis them and loves them.

post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Spinning Wheel View Post
 

LX82 on the other hand would be a great choice

 I'll look into that one a little bit more.  I did see a review that said it was for lighter weight skiers.  Maybe I heard that wrong or didn't understand what the guy was saying.

 

I'm 6' and 205 lbs., btw.

 

Thanks for the input.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Not really an intermediate ski, but the video proves intermediates can make it work. You might look at the LX series rather than MX. Another ski to grow into would be a Head Rev 85 Pro.


LX seems to be the consensus.

 

I'm demoing a bunch of skis this weekend and the REV 85 is one of them, along with the 80.  Interested to see how they are.

post #8 of 17

Easy solution: if you are demoing- just try them both!  You need a 183 MX83 though.  My guess is you will really like the rev 85.

post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

Easy solution: if you are demoing- just try them both!  You need a 183 MX83 though.  My guess is you will really like the rev 85.


Unfortunately, they don't have Kastle's to demo.  Sucks, I know.

post #10 of 17

While Kastle makes some spectacular skis, I'm not sure that's the correct purchase for you at this point. The reason might be length. Most folks at your ability level can benefit from a shortish ski for the first couple of years of skills building. When you have 50-75 days under your belt, you will be a very different skier than you are now and at that point, the longer size would be a benefit. At this point, it might hinder your development.

 

IMO, you'd be well suited with a less expensive and yes, less sophisticated ski in a somewhat shorter size. Then you spring for the top of the line when you are ready for what it delivers and have the skills for the longer size.

 

SJ

post #11 of 17

as stated. 

 

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
 

Easy solution: if you are demoing- just try them both!  You need a 183 MX83 though.  My guess is you will really like the rev 85.

 

 

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Originally Posted by DirtViking View Post
 


Unfortunately, they don't have Kastle's to demo.  Sucks, I know.

post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

...but the video proves intermediates can make it work

 

What's the one thing (or are there several) that tells you this guy is an intermediate?  Skidding?

 

Is there a comparable video from the same vantage point that would show the differences?

 

Not trying to pry, I think a video of that would actually help me see the difference.

 

Thanks.

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by DirtViking View Post

What's the one thing (or are there several) that tells you this guy is an intermediate?  Skidding?

Is there a comparable video from the same vantage point that would show the differences?

Not trying to pry, I think a video of that would actually help me see the difference.

Thanks.

Physically strong, and most likely considers himself an expert. Shadow shows a lot of shoulder turning and upper body rotation to initiate his turns. That's fine on easy groomed terrain, but the wheels would come off with more slope angle and/or variable snow.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Spinning Wheel View Post
 

It looks the ski in the video is actually the LX82 rather than the MX83.

Yup

post #15 of 17

FYI:

I'm 5'9 175 pounds, an intermediate+ skier, and have LX92 174cm for the last couple seasons -> a great length for me and I luv that ski.

 

I also have MX78 178cm with KTI plate ( thank you "mogsie" ) , and MX88 178cm.

For my local groomers ( hard packed ) I am keeping the MX78 as it is easier to ski ( for me ) and I like the nimbler turning aspect of it

The MX88 are great too, but more work for me ( fatigue ) on my local groomer -> ie, not the best tool for the conditions I typically encounter here locally.

 

My quiver will boil down to MX78, LX92, DPS 112RP.   Those 3 cover lot of conditions.

 

Anyway, I post to give you an indication of my height / weight / skill and what lengths I like in Kastle

 

- Andy

post #16 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtViking View Post
 

 

What's the one thing (or are there several) that tells you this guy is an intermediate?  Skidding?

 

Is there a comparable video from the same vantage point that would show the differences?

 

Not trying to pry, I think a video of that would actually help me see the difference.

 

Thanks.


Looks like they are throwing their butt side to side( looking at the shadows)to make the turns, that is why there is more skidding than carving going on

post #17 of 17
The best part of that vid are the shots of Mt Washington in the background. You are looking at the storied Huntington and Tuckerman Ravines. That is a lot of hill for 6288 feet.
Speaking of feet, I profess that I have never skied with a helmet cam. But it seems to me that this fellow spent the entire ride looking at his shadow on his shiny new skis. I can't blame him.
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