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Toko T14 Iron - Technical question

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hello all,

(this is my first topic :D)

 

I bought a Toko T14 Iron, and I saw a strange behavior. I tried the followings:
1. I plugged in the Iron (by default is 130'C)
2. I set the temp to 150'C
3. Green led is OFF, I saw on the display the current temp, it's increasing, everything is fine, When temp is equal to 150'C, the green led is ON. Good
4. I set the temp. to 90'C, and this is the strange thing, the green led remains on, and on the led display remains 90'C. This behavior is very strange for me, I expected on the display the current temp.

Somehow I tricked the iron thinking that it is at ready when in fact it is overt ready.

I want to know if this is the behavior of the IRON, or I have a problem with my iron.

 

 

 

post #2 of 17
Sounds normal. Only way to know exactly what's going on is to take a reading with an appropriate thermometer.
post #3 of 17
Thread Starter 

Hello Chenzo,

 

I'm pretty sure that the temp is ok, it's on the display :D but I want to know if this behavior is ok? If I decrese the temp, should the iron display the setted temp. ? not the actual one? I understand that I do not need for waxing a special module for cooling down the plate. My concern is, if this is the right behavior, or my iron is broken? Do you have a T14 ? :D

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by gaga View Post
 

Hello Chenzo,

 

I'm pretty sure that the temp is ok, it's on the display :D but I want to know if this behavior is ok? If I decrese the temp, should the iron display the setted temp. ? not the actual one? I understand that I do not need for waxing a special module for cooling down the plate. My concern is, if this is the right behavior, or my iron is broken? Do you have a T14 ? :D


I've never tried lowering the temperature of the T14 from a higher temperature (that it already reached), but I have noted that my iron will show the "actual" temperature while it's heating up.

 

Tried unplugging the iron?

post #5 of 17
I have 4 t14's, one personal and 3 at my work.

What your iron is doing is normal. Thats how the thermostat is designed. But like I said the only way to know for sure is to take a temp reading.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

I have 4 t14's, one personal and 3 at my work.

What your iron is doing is normal. Thats how the thermostat is designed. But like I said the only way to know for sure is to take a temp reading.

 

Yup, same behavior for my iron :D I was just curios about the behavior, and I tried to reduce the temp... tried it, if you are curious :D I think you will see that the iron is not capable to reduce the temp, but it will show you the setted temp as an actual temp, but it's wrong, actually is over ready :D . Am I right?

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

I have 4 t14's, one personal and 3 at my work.

What your iron is doing is normal. Thats how the thermostat is designed. But like I said the only way to know for sure is to take a temp reading.


Any recommendations for calibrating the t14, and have you found a need to do that on the 4 you work with?

post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 

Ok, done, I tried to record with the phone, the quality is very poor, but I think you will understand... Please have a look :D Is you iron behavior the same? http://we.tl/5KfebpR0Ac   Sorry for quality, if it's not ok, I will borrow this days a gopro from a friend

post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

I have 4 t14's, one personal and 3 at my work.

What your iron is doing is normal. Thats how the thermostat is designed. But like I said the only way to know for sure is to take a temp reading.

 

Oh, ok, thank you very much. So my conclusion is that Toko T14, is designed only increasing the temp. Good to know. We should should start another topic regardint Swix vs Toko :D

Thank you very much guys for all your support

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 


Any recommendations for calibrating the t14, and have you found a need to do that on the 4 you work with?

 

I usually only calibrate if I suspect something is wrong.  We are going on 4 seasons of heavy shop use on one of our T14's and it hasn't missed a beat.
 
This is what I use to calibrate

 

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post
 

This is what I use to calibrate

 

Can you describe that setup?  It looks like a custom fabricated metal holder that lets you fit a high temp thermometer right to the base.

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by gaga View Post
 

Hello all,

(this is my first topic :D)

 

I bought a Toko T14 Iron, and I saw a strange behavior. I tried the followings:
1. I plugged in the Iron (by default is 130'C)
2. I set the temp to 150'C
3. Green led is OFF, I saw on the display the current temp, it's increasing, everything is fine, When temp is equal to 150'C, the green led is ON. Good
4. I set the temp. to 90'C, and this is the strange thing, the green led remains on, and on the led display remains 90'C. This behavior is very strange for me, I expected on the display the current temp.

Somehow I tricked the iron thinking that it is at ready when in fact it is overt ready.

I want to know if this is the behavior of the IRON, or I have a problem with my iron.

 

 

 

I have a T14 and This is normal behavior

 

Whats going on is the massive aluminum sole plate heats up to the desired temperature 150'C

 

When the user asks for a lower temperature 90'C

 

The huge sole plate on this iron can not loose the 60'C via thermal dissipation instantly

 

So unless you want to add a cooling system .....

 

Don't do that 

 

 

 

 

post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by near nyquist View Post
 

I have a T14 and This is normal behavior

 

Whats going on is the massive aluminum sole plate heats up to the desired temperature 150'C

 

When the user asks for a lower temperature 90'C

 

The huge sole plate on this iron can not loose the 60'C via thermal dissipation instantly

 

So unless you want to add a cooling system .....

 

Don't do that 

 

 

 

 

But his point is the Digital display reads 90 the entire time from the oment you reduce the temp and the Green light stays illuminated as does the red light. I tried this with mine and let it sit for 1/2 hour and this is the exhibited behavior. I would expect the Green light to go out and the red light to stay on until it cools to 90 and then the red light should go out and the Green light should come on. Could have something to do with the fact 90 is as cool as you can set it.

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Magi View Post
 

 

Can you describe that setup?  It looks like a custom fabricated metal holder that lets you fit a high temp thermometer right to the base.

 

It's made by swix. not sure if they still produce it.

 

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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post
 

But his point is the Digital display reads 90 the entire time from the oment you reduce the temp and the Green light stays illuminated as does the red light. I tried this with mine and let it sit for 1/2 hour and this is the exhibited behavior. I would expect the Green light to go out and the red light to stay on until it cools to 90 and then the red light should go out and the Green light should come on. Could have something to do with the fact 90 is as cool as you can set it.

At 260f the green and red led stay on solid.  When I turn mine down, say from 260f to 230f, the red led flashes, and then goes solid when it reaches 230f.  The green stays solid when turning down.  The display will show 230f.

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by near nyquist View Post
 

I have a T14 and This is normal behavior

 

Whats going on is the massive aluminum sole plate heats up to the desired temperature 150'C

 

When the user asks for a lower temperature 90'C

 

The huge sole plate on this iron can not loose the 60'C via thermal dissipation instantly

 

So unless you want to add a cooling system .....

 

Don't do that 

 

 

 

 

 

@nyquist -  Ok, thank you very much... for your feedback, is good to know that my iron is ok.

 

 @Atomicman -And I agree with you. I also need information regarding the display, because the problem with the green led, and 7 segment led display could be solved by a software engineer. 

 

@Chenzo - Very nice calibration system. But, this is calibration? or verification? How you will adjust the iron?

post #16 of 17

I have been very pleased with my T14 and from the sounds of it, you iron is working fine.

post #17 of 17

I don't know about the 14, but on the T-8 the dial must be moved three times to reset the iron.  Not going to cool faster, but you might try that as far as the readout goes.

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