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post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

I have a Head Rock n Roll, 94mm waist, and a Bluehouse Maestro, 118mm waist.  I can get good deal on Dynastar, Solomon or Liberty skis but don't have the opportunity to demo them.  I'm looking to buy a 100mm waist all around ski and use my Head's for rock skis.  Living in Colorado I ski mostly powder days, trees and bowls.

 

Weight 150lbs

Height 5'-9"

Level: Advanced

 

I don't want a stiff ski but something playful for the days where I'll be in a variety of conditions, fair amount of front rocker.  I don't bother to ski fast groomers. Also something that turns well in the trees.  Something to take if the conditions might be powder but maybe not so much.

 

Any Dynastars, Solomon or Liberty skis that fit the bill for my weight?


Edited by mmpotash - 1/11/14 at 9:30pm
post #2 of 18

Liberty Helix -- should meet your needs perfectly!  Don't know much about Dynastar, but the Salomon Q98 and Q105 should also be two skis you take a look at.

 

T. - wasatchreport.com

post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 

I thought the Liberty Helix might be stiffer than what I want.. quick turning in tight trees.  Evo rates the flex as:

 

Flex Rating: 7 (1 Softest - 10 Stiffest) - Features a stiff under foot flex and a medium flex in the tip and tail for superior control on hardpack and playful feel everywhere else
On the other hand the front rocker seems fairly large so that would be good in trees with powder.  Anyone demo or owe these skis could let me know?  Remember, I'm only 150 lbs and want the ski to feel playful for my weight.
post #4 of 18

From my experience on a bunch of Liberty skis since 2008, the Helix is super playful, skis very, very light, very agile for its width, and has one of the best edgeholds in its class.  Definitely demo a pair if you can.  Super compliant, yet plenty of zing due to the bamboo core.  We are currently testing the new Liberty Sequence, as well as the new Variant 97, and they are great at what they do...but the Helix might be just the ticket if you "ski mostly powder days, trees and bowls.", the Helix is a winner. It has been one of Liberty's best selling designs for a reason...people really like this ski.  I would not hesitate to second Wasatch's suggestion.

post #5 of 18
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Edited by nochaser - 1/12/14 at 12:17pm
post #6 of 18

The Salomon Quest 98 is a very playful ski that should be on your short list and it is a great value at a MAP of $499, part of  Philpug's 2014 Steals & Deals Winners 

post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 

Add Rossignol to the list for skis I can get a discount on.  Anyone try The Rossi Sin 7?

post #8 of 18
Thread Starter 

Due to lack of availabilty for some choices, it is narrowed down to the Liberty Helix and the Rossi Soul 7.  I'm concerned that the longer turn radius of the Helix will make it harder to turn in the trees with powder, although easier in the groomed. The Soul 7 doesn't handle hardpack that well from what I've heard.  Both would be in the 175-176 range.  Considering my weight, any thoughts?

post #9 of 18

Why not keep riding the Head RnRs? Apart from possibly the most horrible top sheet available these are excellent skis.

 

Another 6mm isn't going to make much difference, so if you need more skis then ex demo or reduced RnRs would be a great deal. Or if you "need" more skis, people who liked RnRs generally like Head Venturis, which are a pretty reasonable at RRP.

post #10 of 18

Life is too short to be on the wrong skis just to save a few bucks. Didnt you read this thread? http://www.epicski.com/t/124829/follow-up-to-rossis-if-i-had-a-dollar-post#post_1671835 ;)

post #11 of 18
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  The Head R n R's are best for hardpack and bumps.  Everytime I bring them after a "few" inches of snow, I end up tree skiing in 12+" of fresh.  The Heads nosedive in snow that deep. If I bring my powder skis, it seems to always be that the snow is windblown.  Bad luck, I guess I always bring the wrong skis.  This way, if conditions are in between, I'll have a ski for it. 

 

  I ended up ordering the Rossi Soul 7's.  They are backordered but I should have them in a few weeks.

post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by mmpotash View Post
 

  The Head R n R's are best for hardpack and bumps.  Everytime I bring them after a "few" inches of snow, I end up tree skiing in 12+" of fresh.  The Heads nosedive in snow that deep. If I bring my powder skis, it seems to always be that the snow is windblown.  Bad luck, I guess I always bring the wrong skis.  This way, if conditions are in between, I'll have a ski for it. 

 

  I ended up ordering the Rossi Soul 7's.  They are backordered but I should have them in a few weeks.

Bring both skis?

post #13 of 18

The RnRs are good on hardpack and bumps for a wide ski. They are not a frontside carver so if 12" powder is a problem then it's not the arrow but the indian. With the right skills a 66mm ski will do fine in 12" of pow, crud, whatever. Watch a PMTS video to see a demonstration of this.

post #14 of 18
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"it's not the arrow but the indian"- no arguement there but even my friends who are much better skiers prefer a wider ski for 12+ inches.

post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by mrfish View Post

The RnRs are good on hardpack and bumps for a wide ski. They are not a frontside carver so if 12" powder is a problem then it's not the arrow but the indian. With the right skills a 66mm ski will do fine in 12" of pow, crud, whatever. Watch a PMTS video to see a demonstration of this.


 



True, but in today's world there are much better options out there. I smart indian will choose the proper arrow for the game he's hunting.

Now I'll go read the rest of this thread...
post #16 of 18
How about the Dynastar Charm 97 or what ever it comes in on mid 100's ?

See what Phil can do for a price on the Q106 ? With a nice light binding.
post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 

I couldn't get the Cham's via Pro-Deal.

post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by mmpotash View Post

 

  I ended up ordering the Rossi Soul 7's.  They are backordered but I should have them in a few weeks.

This might not end well...

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