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EC carver suggestions to bookend my quiver of 2

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Hi,

I’m looking for a front side carver for east coast bulletproof groomers.  Currently ski Blizzy Bones in 173  and I really love them.  Railing groomers at super high speeds is not really my thing.  I love the bumps and enjoy picking away at stashes of soft snow and crud along the edges with athletic fast twitch short radius turns.  I have a dozen days on the Bones this year and most days have been really happy with them and they just seem to work for my style skiing.   That said, they are obviously not designed as a carver.   I went the other night and the entire mountain was groomed boilerplate so I decided to demo some dedicated carvers.  I came away with the thought that a two ski quiver was in my future with a 70 something carver taking a spot alongside my bones for days when there is absolutely no soft snow to be found…or days when I am skiing laps with a hard charging GS style partner.   My stats;

 5’5” 155lb male.  48 y/o but still very athletic.  I’ve been skiing for close to 40 years but had a long hiatus from the sport in my 30’s and early 40’s.  I fancy myself as an accomplished skier but pretty much everybody advanced and above does…so who knows.  In any event, I demoed a bunch of skis and here are my thoughts;

Elan Amphibo Waveflex 14  in 168 and 176 – I really, really loved these skis.  Super -smooth and damp and absolutely rock solid, felt glued to the snow. They railed the boilerplate but were fine in a bit of junk also.  Super friendly tips and turn initiation, not hooky at all, with a nice solid tail.  Just a joy to ski and felt so smooth compared to my bones.  176 gave me more of a GS vibe and maybe just a tad big for me and had to pay attention on them. ..in 168 they skied themselves.  If they made them halfway between 176 and 168 I might have found my perfect carver.

Head Supershape I-rally in 170 – I did not care for these skis.  Only one run in them.  Felt vague not damp but no pop either.  Threw me backseat a couple of times…not sure why?? 

Rossi Pursuit HPTi in 170– Great ski.  Not as damp as the Waveflex but lots of pop and super stable.  Felt light and lively to me relative to the waveflex.  Great grip.    Not quite as good in any loose junk as the Waveflex but not bad.  I think smooth damp and stable is my thing but I still could be happy on this ski.

Elan Amphibio 78Ti in 168 - Nice, similar to the Waveflex 14 but a bit more nervous at speed and not quite the same level of grip.  Didn’t get quite that rock solid glued to the snow feel.

Elan Amphibio 82 XTI  in 168 – Again real nice.  Maybe half way between the 78Ti and Waveflex 14 when it comes to feel and stability.  Starting to get more of an all mountain vibe.

Blizzard Brahma in 173 – What can I say.  Like my Bones but a bit grippier and maybe a bit less stable in the crud.  Ridiculous grip on the boilerplate.  Brilliant ski but like the Bones not particularly smooth…at least in my weight, and not really a carver for ripping EC groomers IMO.

Demos last year included- Volkl (but none of the carvers) and they felt planky to me.  Demoed Kastle BMX 88 and they were nice smooth and damp but didn’t offer great grip if I remember correctly.  Demoed MX78’s but I think the tune was wacked as the right ski was dangerously unstable.  Unfortunately no kastles to demo at my home mountain this year.

Way back in the day I loved Rossi ST Comps.  Didn’t put much thought into it back then just know I liked them better than all the others.

So…if anybody actually got though this book I wrote…any suggestions on other skis to try and demo based on my ski preferences?  Would probably buy the Waveflex 14s but don't seem to be many around and I may get a chance to demo other skis (e.g.Kastles) that I might like better.  Plus I just love demoing skis :-)  THX

dave

 


Edited by DMAS - 1/11/14 at 7:50am
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I really, really loved these skis.

 

Suggestions?...................Yes, buy those ^^^

 

But if you just have to demo more, the Dynastar Course Pro and Stockli SX or CS come come to mind.

 

SJ

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thx I'll will look into them.  Like I said, I love demoing

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Rossi radical 9 sl

Kastle rx12 

Nordica Fire Arrow 84 edt

 

 

the most vesatile of them:meaning they are great carver that I use in bumps and trees also:

dynastar speed course ti 2012 and 2013

Volkl tigershark 10 feet

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Elan Amphibo Waveflex 14  in 168 and 176 – I really, really loved these skis.  Super -smooth and damp and absolutely rock solid, felt glued to the snow. They railed the boilerplate but were fine in a bit of junk also.  Super friendly tips and turn initiation, not hooky at all, with a nice solid tail.  Just a joy to ski and felt so smooth compared to my bones.  176 gave me more of a GS vibe and maybe just a tad big for me and had to pay attention on them. ..in 168 they skied themselves.  If they made them halfway between 176 and 168 I might have found my perfect carver.

I agree with SJ that you may have found your skis.  But, I really enjoy demo'ing as well, so have fun with it!  I did a bunch of demos at Stratton last year and my number one favorite was also the Amphibio WF 14.  168cm was plenty of length for me at 5'10", 166 lbs.  If you find one you like better, I'd love to hear about it!

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I agree with SJ that you may have found your skis.  But, I really enjoy demo'ing as well, so have fun with it!  I did a bunch of demos at Stratton last year and my number one favorite was also the Amphibio WF 14.  168cm was plenty of length for me at 5'10", 166 lbs.  If you find one you like better, I'd love to hear about it!

Yeah I ended up buying the the Waveflex 14's.  Demoed them a second time  last night again in icy conditions, then found them on clearance in 168's at a local shop today for a great price so I pulled the trigger.  After spending quite a bit of time on them yesterday I think the 168's are a good fit for me also. I'm pretty happy now with the bones as  my soft snow ski and the Elans for the bulletproof days.

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