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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I tried a bunch of powder skis last year (Rossi Super 7, Atomic Bent Chet, K2 Sideseth, ON3P Billy Goat, Line Opus Pollard, Black Diamond Megawatt, Line Sir Francis Bacon, Salomon Rocker115 and 108, among others) and thought I liked the BGs the most, but also loved the Line SFB and OP.

 

Well, over the summer, I got a good deal on a basically unused flat pair of '11-'12 BGs.  I've been on them a number of times this year and am just not loving them.  They don't feel playful to me, they feel heavy, too stiff, not forgiving at all and I'm finding myself working too hard to ski in good powder.  This really surprises me b/c I thought they felt better last year, and everyone generally raves about them as a powder ski.  Has anyone who's skied them feel this way?

 

Now I'm conflicted on what to do.  I'd like a more dedicated powder ski, but maybe 118 underfoot is too much?  I typically ski the 5 Vail resorts, as well as Loveland, WP, Aspen Highlands, and Snowbird.

 

Thoughts on whether to find a different ski that's around 118 under foot (Line Pollard) or size down and get one that I can use way more often in all kinds of conditions, like the SFB?  Are there other powder oriented skis that you'd recommend I look at?

 

I remember the Line Pollard being much more playful (118 underfoot), and the SFB even more so since it's 108 underfoot.   Plus lighter.  That's where I'm leaning - I'd like to hear if people have had good experiences with them.

 

FWIW, I do have a pair of Volkl Mantras as my other ski.

post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 

one other thing I should add is that I'd like a ski that can turn well in trees.

post #3 of 10
I don't think 118 is too much for a dedicated powder ski.
Am currently having a ball on my Élan Boomerangs in Japan.
post #4 of 10

Probably a good place to start your quest is with the Nordica Patron. This ski has been around for some time now and @ 113 under, it's as nimble and quick as you could realistically want. The cambered section underfoot is firm in flex so the Patron is stable and grippy enough that it won't drive you batty on the way back to the lift.

 

IMO....one of the very best of the "powder preferred" group of skis.

 

SJ

post #5 of 10

Why don't you get the Opus? I think it's a great ski! I demoed a few times and loved it... just not stiff enough for what I was looking for... but as a soft pow playful ski I think it's really good! 

 

The patron suggestion from Jim is also a good one if you don't wanna go too wide though...

 

what other skis to you have? If you have a good all mountain in the 100mm underfoot range I don't see why you can't go with the Opus!

post #6 of 10
I do have a Mantra for groomer type days.
Is the Opus stable in chopped up pow?
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by PaliKona View Post
 

I tried a bunch of powder skis last year (Rossi Super 7, Atomic Bent Chet, K2 Sideseth, ON3P Billy Goat, Line Opus Pollard, Black Diamond Megawatt, Line Sir Francis Bacon, Salomon Rocker115 and 108, among others) and thought I liked the BGs the most, but also loved the Line SFB and OP.

 

Well, over the summer, I got a good deal on a basically unused flat pair of '11-'12 BGs.  I've been on them a number of times this year and am just not loving them.  They don't feel playful to me, they feel heavy, too stiff, not forgiving at all and I'm finding myself working too hard to ski in good powder.  This really surprises me b/c I thought they felt better last year, and everyone generally raves about them as a powder ski.  Has anyone who's skied them feel this way?

 

Just for clarification, do you know what year/size Billy Goat you tried last year?  Reason I ask is the 11/12 BG and the 12/13 BG are very different from each other (including the 191cm, though not to the same extent as the 176cm/186cm), so it is possible the ski you demo'ed and the ski you bought are not the same ski.  Just a thought.

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by wasatchwarrior View Post

Is the Opus stable in chopped up pow?

 

It will depend... if you hit soft snow stashes it's a blast, also good on soft tracked pow! Now Some crud/chopped pow that you wish you could crush past it, the Opus will get deflected pretty easy in my experience.

 

Have you tried the Influence 115? I found it to be stiffer than my rocker2 115 but not crazy stiff like Moments. I will certainly be a better chopped up pow ski than the Opus.

post #9 of 10
Just for my reference where would you rate ON3p BGs in terms of flex? What about Opus?
post #10 of 10
never skied the BG, but the Opus I would say it's a soft flex, or soft/med flex at most...
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