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post #1 of 30
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Just saw this today.  Vonn is officially out at Sochi.  Looks like more surgery in her near future.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/01/07/lindsey-vonn-wont-compete-in-olympics-rep-says/?intcmp=features

post #2 of 30
Sad but not unexpected. I hope she comes back faster than ever.
post #3 of 30
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Originally Posted by roverdisco View Post
 

Just saw this today.  Vonn is officially out at Sochi.  Looks like more surgery in her near future.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/01/07/lindsey-vonn-wont-compete-in-olympics-rep-says/?intcmp=features

 

You read FOX news?  The word on the street is FOX news is extremely biased, stretches the truth just a tad, and nobody pays attention to FOX news anymore.  You must not have gotten the memo. 

 

Yes very sad about Lindsey.   :(

post #4 of 30
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You read FOX news?  The word on the street is FOX news is extremely biased, stretches the truth just a tad, and nobody pays attention to FOX news anymore.  You must not have gotten the memo. 

 

Yes very sad about Lindsey.   :(

The only sections to stay out of are opinion and politics. Unless you can really pick up on that right wing pull in the sports section. :rolleyes

 

 

 

I've known for awhile that she wasn't going to make the cut for Sochi, it sucks for her since she's been training so hard. But on the other hand it will open up a spot for another teammate to shine.

post #5 of 30
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 You read FOX news?  The word on the street is FOX news is extremely biased, stretches the truth just a tad, and nobody pays attention to FOX news anymore.  You must not have gotten the memo. 

Hey, even msn.com links to Fox Sports.  For my more liberal friends out there, here is the link through msn.com:D.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/us-olympic-skier-lindsey-vonn-will-not-compete-in-sochi-games-knee-injury-010714

post #6 of 30

No Tiger in Russia? Damn, What's Bob Coasta going talk about now?  

post #7 of 30
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 I've known for awhile that she wasn't going to make the cut for Sochi, it sucks for her since she's been training so hard. But on the other hand it will open up a spot for another teammate to shine.

 

When she re-hurt it in her return, the first thing I said was it was too early.  I have a torn ACL in my right knee and did a lot of research.  The common theme was the 6 to 9 month mark are the most crutial as the knee is getting stronger but the graft is at its weakest.  I hope she is smart now and gets fully healed.  She is fun to watch at full strength.

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do you think she'll do a gig as a tv commentator for Sochi?
post #9 of 30
This is a sad but not unexpected news. She is true competitor and it's sad to see her miss what could be her last Olympics. Now let's see the networks shed the crocodile tears about her robbing them of another sappy comeback story. I hope she is back for the world championships next year.
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Woke up to the news alert on my Phone from ESPN quoting LV as saying she was "Absoultely devestated" and that this was an MCL issue not an ACL issue. 

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Originally Posted by catskills View Post
 

 

You read FOX news?  The word on the street is FOX news is extremely biased, stretches the truth just a tad, and nobody pays attention to FOX news anymore.  You must not have gotten the memo. 

 

Yes very sad about Lindsey.   :(

Forget FOX, the news is on the USST site this morning: http://usskiteam.com/news/vonn-miss-sochi-olympics  

post #12 of 30
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Sad but not unexpected. I hope she comes back faster than ever.

Coming back too fast is what got her in this predicament to begin with.

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This is truly disappointing for not only Lindsey but also for the sport. There will be a lot of viewers that will not tune into the skiing now because of this be it to see her, skiing or Tiger. Skiing and ski racing needs whatever viewers we can get. 

post #14 of 30

These athletes and their amazing ability to push the limits during recovery continue to amaze me, so I was holding out hope that she could pull it off, but this tells us that she's human and needs to let her body heal. 

 

Bummer for her and the US Ski Team.  

Heal well Lindsey. 

 

In the mean time, 

Ms. Shiffrin is incredible to watch!

http://www.epicski.com/t/124496/gate-crasher-60-minutes-sports-on-showtime

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This is truly disappointing for not only Lindsey but also for the sport. There will be a lot of viewers that will not tune into the skiing now because of this be it to see her, skiing or Tiger. Skiing and ski racing needs whatever viewers we can get. 

I could not disagree more. Now we might actually be able to hear about some of the World Class skier that have been over looked by the networks due to the circus they create. Don't get me wrong I love to watch Vonn ski but all the bull shit that NBC makes out of the spectacle kills it for me. Broadcasters that know nothing of the sport trying to sound relevant to the masses of spectators that only watch skiing every 4 years do no service to the sport its self. Besides Bob Costas likens slope-style in the Olympics to Jackass on snow. Really? Costas is a tool box. Less I see of him the better.      

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I could not disagree more. Now we might actually be able to hear about some of the World Class skier that have been over looked by the networks due to the circus they create. Don't get me wrong I love to watch Vonn ski but all the bull shit that NBC makes out of the spectacle kills it for me. Broadcasters that know nothing of the sport trying to sound relevant to the masses of spectators that only watch skiing every 4 years do no service to the sport its self. Besides Bob Costas likens slope-style in the Olympics to Jackass on snow. Really? Costas is a tool box. Less I see of him the better.      

I understand what you are saying and see where you are coming from but it is not what pays the bills and creates new interest into the sport. 

post #17 of 30
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Coming back too fast is what got her in this predicament to begin with.
I should have said stronger, I hope when she recovers it's a strong healing process and she can get back her speed to compete again, whenever that is. I agree it seemed like she rushed the rehab and competition to get ready for Sochi.
post #18 of 30
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I understand what you are saying and see where you are coming from but it is not what pays the bills and creates new interest into the sport. 

I doubt that listening got another sappy story would push more people into skiing.  I understand that it's what sells, but I would not overestimate the marketing effect, its really aimed at couch potatoes who would never come within a mile of a ski slope. 

 

I truly detest the US coverage of non-major sports like ski racing.  No one ever talks about the things that matter, like Bode's supernatural abilities and balance skills (all they can talk about is his lifestyle- who gives a sh&t?), also no one talks about Shiffrin's work ethics- at the US nationals at Squaw the morning before women's slalom race Dave's deli was full of guys who were racing that day, and only a couple of girls showed up early to train- guess who was among them- the one girl who just won the slalom WC and presumably didn't need much training...    No, all we hear about is the shlock about her going to a boarding school and her mom analyzing her technique in the kitchen with a broomstick...  US sports coverage sucks.  You can thank NBC and that moron Bob Costas for that.  

post #19 of 30

The writing has been on the wall really since midway through her rehab.  She was already skiing with NO ACL, now also has MCL problems?  What's the average career span for a world class skier these days?  Love her, greatest female US skier ever of not the greatest in the world ever.  Hope she can remain active in the sport, but chances for being dominant again are looking pretty slim.

 

:(

post #20 of 30
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I doubt that listening got another sappy story would push more people into skiing.  I understand that it's what sells, but I would not overestimate the marketing effect, its really aimed at couch potatoes who would never come within a mile of a ski slope. 

 

I truly detest the US coverage of non-major sports like ski racing.  No one ever talks about the things that matter, like Bode's supernatural abilities and balance skills (all they can talk about is his lifestyle- who gives a sh&t?), also no one talks about Shiffrin's work ethics- at the US nationals at Squaw the morning before women's slalom race Dave's deli was full of guys who were racing that day, and only a couple of girls showed up early to train- guess who was among them- the one girl who just won the slalom WC and presumably didn't need much training...    No, all we hear about is the shlock about her going to a boarding school and her mom analyzing her technique in the kitchen with a broomstick...  US sports coverage sucks.  You can thank NBC and that moron Bob Costas for that.  


At issue isn't NBC not having expert commentators on hand, since they generally hire former Olympians or coaches to read highly edited scripts.  NBC is in business to provide profits, and in order to sell advertising they need some plumber and his wife sitting in front of a TV going, "Wow."  Some guy named "Todd" or a middle aged woman named "Cindy" explaining a stivot isn't going to provide ratings, yet hearing about the broken finger nail some curling "athlete" endures might.   Yeah, it sucks.  Even worse was the horrendously delayed and edited coverage those of us on the left coast endured during the last Olympics, forcing anyone who understands skiing to hack into a foreign telecast and the FIS site to avoid NBC's contemptible censorship. This year NBC is "getting it," offering live telecasts of all the events with the usually crap being shown at prime time.  Still, nothing beats an overly animated announcer speaking in a Slavic language I can't understand commentating on ski racing.  It is far better than the edited garbage we hear on the prime time telecast. Besides, I love the way overly animated foreign announcers say, "Bo-de Miller!" over and over again every time he makes another theatrical recovery.

 

So Phil is right.  Showing the stuff we like isn't going to make as much money.  NBC's editing and censorship also created a strong backlash, so you are also right.  This is why the network will air events live even with no announcers.  Someone there finally figured out that anyone with an Internet connection will see it live anyway, so why not provide the service and stick in an advertisement or two?


Edited by quant2325 - 1/7/14 at 12:24pm
post #21 of 30
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I should have said stronger, I hope when she recovers it's a strong healing process and she can get back her speed to compete again, whenever that is. I agree it seemed like she rushed the rehab and competition to get ready for Sochi.

Thumbs Up 

post #22 of 30
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Woke up to the news alert on my Phone from ESPN quoting LV as saying she was "Absoultely devestated" and that this was an MCL issue not an ACL issue. 

Well, it was likely caused by the ACL issue. No stability in the knee led to more damage, and even less stability. Maybe competing w/o one of those was possible, but w/o both, not so much.

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What, no rumors of being pregnant with Tiger's love-child????

post #24 of 30
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 Woke up to the news alert on my Phone from ESPN quoting LV as saying she was "Absoultely devestated" and that this was an MCL issue not an ACL issue. 

 

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Well, it was likely caused by the ACL issue. No stability in the knee led to more damage, and even less stability. Maybe competing w/o one of those was possible, but w/o both, not so much.

 

 

According to the news account, she tore the repaired ALC on the first fall after she was back then a later MCL sprain.  Segbrown was spot on. 

 

"She re-tore her surgically repaired ACL in a training crash in November, a key setback. Then, after returning to competition in early December by finishing 40th, 11th and fifth in a set of World Cup races at Lake Louise, Alberta, Vonn sprained her MCL during a race at Val d'Isere, France, last month"

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What, no rumors of being pregnant with Tiger's love-child????

Now there is!

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What, no rumors of being pregnant with Tiger's love-child????


or avoiding the new level of Olympic drug testing ?? There must be another Fox news story out there somewhere.  

post #27 of 30

Maybe the reason she is do dominant is that she is really a man (a la Castor Semenya) . After all she does use men's skis.......

post #28 of 30
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Maybe the reason she is do dominant is that she is really a man (a la Castor Semenya) . After all she does use men's skis.......

Well, she was arguably the strongest skier out there (of her gender).  The strongest in any sport seem to have an advantage.  Regardless, the body can only take so much...

post #29 of 30
I can't imagine how she feels. To compete at the WC level you have to be obsessed and the Olympics raise the bar on obsession. The pain she's endured from the injuries pale by comparison to the work she's done to come back and be ready. All for naught.

Too bad. I admire the way she fought to try to do it but she's had it demonstrated to her that the body does have limits. She has my respect.

Mike
post #30 of 30

As you can imagine, I get feed updates from OnTheSnow.  They have a good article about Lindsey Vonn and the Psyche of an athlete at her level sustaining an injury. 

 

 

Lindsey Vonn’s Comeback Trail: The Psyche of an Injured Athlete

Quote from the article - 

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 “The hallmark of great athletes is their ability to develop a trust in performance,” he says. “They have to trust their preparation, the equipment, their technique, that the edge of the ski will hold. When an injury happens, how do you get that trust back?”
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