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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 

I have an unusual predicament that has offered me the choice of any ski I like. Let me explain,  I had just purchased a pair of 2013 Fischer Watea 84's online  from Clym for real cheep and took them to a local shop here in the East to have my bindings mounted. After specifically showing the kid manning the shop on where exactly I wanted by bindings mounted and showing him the side mark (2"behind center) and boot mark they ended up mounting them at f'n  true center!!

 

Since moving the bindings back would show 6 filled mount holes I was pretty pissed but the manager was great and came through offering me to replace the Fischers (they do not carry them so she would have to order). Orrrrrr I can grab what ever they had new off the rack!!!. Since I only purchased the Wateas because they were real cheep (not quite the best east coast DD)  I am more inclined to choose something else. 

 

To preface any recommendations,  I am 48 yrs old 5'11" 195 lbs, expert East Coast skier (that is slowing down a bit). I used to compete in bumps in college and  into my 20's then gravitated more  to trees and off piste in my 30's and early 40's. Used to ski 30+ days a year and lived in CO, Tahoe for a few years but now mostly ski in VT 10-15  days with the kids.

 

I still ski anything, groomers, crud, powder (the 2 days a year I can) a few bump runs and the trees at Stowe and Sugarbush.  I was skiing two old pairs of Volkl P50's  that have been a blast with no speed limits but need to get newer technology. I also wear Lange World Cup 120 flex boots.

 

I can choose  from Blizzard, Rossi, Line, Volkl, Rossi, K2 or Nordica. I have already skied the Mantra, Kendo, Prophet 90, Theory, Steadfast before but nothing from Rossi or Blizzard.. I ave not skied The manager was really talking up the Rossi Sin 7 while I was there and  hearing so much of the Sick Day 95's I am almost compelled to choose them without even skiing them.

 

In all I am thinking to stick to  '85-95 under foot, early rise rocker with tapered tail (no twin tip) in 178-182 length

 

 So what the hell should I do? Hell&Back, Sick Day 95 or Rossi Sin 7,  other????

 

Thanks in advance!

post #2 of 11
One-ski quiver for east coast? Don't be brainwashed. Stick with an 80-something. My two cents. Lots of options. Others your size will weigh in, I expect.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 

yeah, the more I am thinking and reading I am leaning towards an 88 or 90 like the Steadfast or Brahma (instead of a 98-100) . since I demo'd the Steadfast already I may just do that and cal it a day..Would love to hear about some differences and size opinions as I am 5'111" and 19--200 lbs and with there was a 182 instead of a 177 and 186 only.

post #4 of 11

I think the 178 is plenty stable, the 186 would possibly be not as good in bumps, trees, tight spaces. 

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What did you like (and dislike) about the Steadfasts? I thought the Steadfasts had great edgegrip, rebound and were good in all turn shapes. I thought the Brahmas also had great edge grip and rebound, but were a bit more work and I felt the tips engaged later, but those tips were nice off-piste. And they're way heavier than the Steadfasts. I bought the Steadfasts :) and they're plenty enough work for me, so it really depends on what you want and like. I tried them in 162 as well and didn't like these at all, so don't take them too short. 

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What did you like (and dislike) about the Steadfasts? I thought the Steadfasts had great edgegrip, rebound and were good in all turn shapes. I thought the Brahmas also had great edge grip and rebound, but were a bit more work and I felt the tips engaged later, but those tips were nice off-piste. And they're way heavier than the Steadfasts.

 

See, the Steadfasts didn't engage early enough for me.   

 

Remember those plastic ski tips that dads in the early 80s could stick onto a piece of 1x2 for their little kids to go play in flat snow with as mock skis?     Well, the front 8-9 inches of the Sfs felt just like that.    

Otherwise, quite a nice ski.    More rebound and more edgegrip than the Factions I also tested that day, for sure.

 

186/215

post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 

thanks for the input. I liked the Steadfast however I wasn't used to the lightness. Real grippy and stable I forgot to mention I demoed the Line Prophet 90 as well and really liked the stability and dampness with the metal. I really dont want the turned up tail so I will look at them again side by side. So I am set on the 90 size and it will come down to a last minute decision. I dont have the time to ski them again.

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Originally Posted by Monza View Post
 

 I have already skied the Mantra, Kendo, Prophet 90, Theory, Steadfast before but nothing from Rossi or Blizzard.. I ave not skied The manager was really talking up the Rossi Sin 7 while I was there 

 

How did you like those skis you've been on?    I think therein lies your answer.

 

I have a hard time believing  a guy on the east coast coming off P50's would be happy on a Sin or Soul 7.   Those are skis you might consider as a second ski for pow/soft days, not a primary ski.

 

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Originally Posted by Monza View Post
 

yeah, the more I am thinking and reading I am leaning towards an 88 or 90 like the Steadfast or Brahma (instead of a 98-100) . since I demo'd the Steadfast already I may just do that and cal it a day..Would love to hear about some differences and size opinions as I am 5'111" and 19--200 lbs and with there was a 182 instead of a 177 and 186 only.

 

I think you'll be happy on the 177/178 Kendo or Steadfast.  I'm 5'11 and pushing 185 after the holidays :mad.   I skied my new 178 Steadfasts at MJ for the first time last weekend, so I'm now qualified to comment :).   Actually, they felt pretty similar to 177 Kendos I've skied a for a couple years, super stable at speed, good crud busters, and requiring a skilled pilot for a fast zipper line.  I also skied the 170 Kendos a lot the last few years and liked them more as a firm bump/cruising ski.  The shorter version just give up surface area for soft snow, but still doesn't have a speed limit on cruisers.   I think that would apply to the 170 Steadfast too. although I haven't been on it.    

 

All that is a long way of saying I think you would be happy with a 177 Kendo or a 178 Steadfast (and I'd guess a similar size Brahma but haven't been on it).

 

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Originally Posted by Monza View Post
 

thanks for the input. I liked the Steadfast however I wasn't used to the lightness. Real grippy and stable I forgot to mention I demoed the Line Prophet 90 as well and really liked the stability and dampness with the metal. I really dont want the turned up tail so I will look at them again side by side. So I am set on the 90 size and it will come down to a last minute decision. I dont have the time to ski them again.

 

 

Edit: just saw that post.   Great... I think you'll be happy on the 177/178 of any on the stiffer 90's (Kendo, Steadfast, Brahma).   I'm not sure which way I'd go if I had the choice.  Good problem to have.  Good luck!


Edited by tball - 1/7/14 at 12:50pm
post #9 of 11
X2 for the Kendo. I love mine, almost 90 days on them, still feel the 2014 Kendo I demoed a few weeks back.

Great edge hold, quick edge to edge, and light weight. Haven't found the speed limit yet, been clocked at 53mph. Great ski in the trees and bumps.
post #10 of 11
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I have already skied the Mantra, Kendo, Prophet 90, Theory, Steadfast before but nothing from Rossi or Blizzard.

 

Don't overthink this too much. This guy ^^^ kindly posted a nice list of skis that he demoed...............ask him.

 

 

SJ

post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 

I was able to hold off the decision and will demo Bonafides and Brahmas tomorrow at Kilington.I will report back. Thanks all!

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