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post #1 of 10
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Hello,

 

I recently purchased my first pair of ski boots, Salomon X Pro 100s and custom foot beds at a local shop.  I skied in the boots for about 5 days but noticed that I had way too much volume in the boot in day 1-2 so I put in the original foot beds as well as the custom ones.  Adding the extra foot bed helped but I still felt sloppy on the runs.  I went back to the ski shop since they have a 1 year guarantee on the boots and the boot fitter taped an additional foot bed liner to the bottom of the boot.  I skied in the boots again this weekend and felt better but not perfect.  I am pretty certain that I need to jump down a boot size but I just wanted to confirm it isn't normal to have 3 foot beds in your boot.

 

Also, if you know of a ski boot that has a similar shape to the Salomon X Pros and the size is in between a 26.5(?mm) and 27.5(316mm) I would appreciate any recommendation. Thanks for the assistance!

post #2 of 10

Could we get a little more info:

 

What size/length are your feet in cm?

 

what size are the boots we are talking about?

 

No---- you should not need to add anything to the foot bed to reduce volume.

 

the Salomon X Pros are pretty roomy in the toe box and you might be able to go down a size.

 

Forget about the numbers on the boot----do a shell check and go with the size that checks correctly.

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

read through the above article for info on how to do a shell check.

 

mike

 

 

 

 

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post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hi Mike,

My right foot is 27 cm and my left is 27.305 cm. The boots I have are a 27.5 (316 mm). So if I calculated right my boots are 12.440 in (31.6 cm) and my longest foot is 10.75 in (27.305).

I did the boot fit and I can fit a 1 inch dowl behind my heel with toes to the edge. I also have about a half inch of space in the length when i just try on the liner. I did try on a pair of 26.5 X Pros but on my longest foot was a bit scrunched in just the liner but the boot was okay when flexed. I'm thinking I need to move a size down and just stretch the liner or maybe try another model.

Thank you for the help.
-Mike
post #4 of 10

hint:

 

I measure 28.2 on one foot and can wear a 26.5 in this boot.

 

mike

post #5 of 10

good clues.

 

finding a good boot fit is hard without good guidance. already the shop has put you in a boot that does not seem to be a good match to your foot size and shape.

 

an argument could be made that your foot is a 27 based on what you told us. there is also a chance that using the mondopoint sizing tool in the store might be beyond the skill level of the shop that put you in that boot, and then thought it was a good idea to let you ski with a custom footbed and 2 additional stock footbeds stuffed inside the boot.

 

mike already pointed out that the x-pro 100 is on the large size of the volume spectrum. 

 

i am going to go out on a limb and tell you that even sized down to a 26 shell, that boot is still going to be too large on your foot. i am using the the magical number of "additional footbeds used" calculation to help me to develop that hypothesis.

 

you have a year guarantee………have you seen the movie tommy boy when they are out there trying to sell auto parts and one of their potential clients says that they have no guarantee on their box? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf4C9ssuPjE :rolleyes

 

jim


Edited by starthaus - 1/7/14 at 6:22am
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the assistance Mike and Jim. Yes I agree that I might not have picked the best shop / tech but I do get a warm and fuzzy from that guarantee on the boots :-)….and it lets me return them.

The X Pros may not be the right boot for me but when looking at the shape of my foot and the boot they are the exact same shape (curve)....but may also have too much volume in the toe box as you mentioned Jim. Can you possibly recommend a boot that has a similar shape to the X Pros but less volume in the toe box?

I live in Annapolis, MD so if you know of any good boot fitters in the area please let me know.
Thanks again for the help guys, this has been bit of a frustrating process for me.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by starthaus View Post
 

good clues.

 

finding a good boot fit is hard without good guidance. already the shop has put you in a boot that does not seem to be a good match to your foot size and shape.

 

an argument could be made that your foot is a 27 based on what you told us. there is also a chance that using the mondopoint sizing tool in the store might be beyond the skill level of the shop that put you in that boot, and then thought it was a good idea to let you ski with a custom footbed and 2 additional stock footbeds stuffed inside the boot.

 

mike already pointed out that the x-pro 100 is on the large size of the volume spectrum. 

 

i am going to go out on a limb and tell you that even sized down to a 26 shell, that boot is still going to be too large on your foot. i am using the the magical number of "additional hotbeds used" calculation to help me to develop that hypothesis.

 

you have a year guarantee………have you seen the movie tommy boy when they are out there trying to sell auto parts and one of their potential clients says that they have no guarantee on their box? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf4C9ssuPjE :rolleyes

 

jim

As Jim noted in the  high lighted text above---why not keep going down on the shell size till you get the correct shell check (5 to 15mm).  Who cares what size the manufacturer call a boot since most of them are marked wrong anyway.  So you measure 27.0---if the shoe fits, wear it even if it is a 25.5.

 

mike

post #8 of 10

Just to add further,

 

there are loads of boots that have either a little less volume, or a lot less volume than the X Pro, X Max for one, but that is not to say it is the right thing!  get yourself to a really good fitter, sorry i don't know any "go to guys" in that area, but someone on here probably will, if there is nobody local then travel to a fitter, you have experienced the not right side of boot fitting and owe it to yourself and your skiing to get it right

post #9 of 10

FWIW. Great movie Tommy Boy...Big guy in a little coat....Little foot in a big boot....

post #10 of 10

ski center, washington DC. ask for Brian.

 

jim

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