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Here is a great video lesson with great Maruyama Takao. I don't understand the language so I have to rely simply on what I see. Check it out and express your opinion. Interesting for me was to see the great emphasis on staying square and using heavy upper body and hip rotation to fuel the turns. Still there is little of that in his own skiing once ripping be it groomers or moguls. Speaking of moguls, if you never knew what turning round in the moguls looks like check mr Takao out @ 39:45. Epic.

 

 

TDK

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Wow he rips! Super impressive.

Interesting demos, some stuff centered on fixing student faults vs dogma it appeared to me at just a quick glance.

Hopefully a Japanese speaker here will give us the gist.....
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hrtele52 - thanks for watching. I was thinking the same, very student oriented. And Takaos skiing is super solid and smooth. I would love to take a lesson from him.

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I have terrible difficulty  with a move demonstrated in this video beginning around 5:25 , wondering if anyone had advice.     

 

When in a stopped position (or moving very slowly) with skis across the slope perpendicular to fall line   I cannot seem to perform the simultaneous rotation of skis to head down slope . 


 I always seem to have my uphill ski cross tips with the downhill ski as the downhill ski is harder to turn at same speed.  My guess is weighting issue as i have more weight on downhill ski at that point it's much easier to rotate uphill ski than downhill ski for me.  Instead I usually pick up downhill ski and turn it to face more downhill to get started.  

Any tips on technique or proper weighting that I can practice?

 

(Probably one of the many reasons I can't ski bumps ) 

post #5 of 15

He is definitely doing some different stuff there.  kind of a waist steering approach it seems like.  Would love to hear translation.

post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by PA Ski Dad View Post
 

I have terrible difficulty  with a move demonstrated in this video beginning around 5:25 , wondering if anyone had advice.     

 

When in a stopped position (or moving very slowly) with skis across the slope perpendicular to fall line   I cannot seem to perform the simultaneous rotation of skis to head down slope . 


 I always seem to have my uphill ski cross tips with the downhill ski as the downhill ski is harder to turn at same speed.  My guess is weighting issue as i have more weight on downhill ski at that point it's much easier to rotate uphill ski than downhill ski for me.  Instead I usually pick up downhill ski and turn it to face more downhill to get started.  

Any tips on technique or proper weighting that I can practice?

 

(Probably one of the many reasons I can't ski bumps )

 

Basic parallel turn! Out of the fall line! If you look at the instructor you see him up-unweight to initiate the turn. The students fail to do so. That's why they struggle. I don't know about you but maybe you are not up-unweighting enough to get pressure off of your skis. Sounds like you are weighting your downhill ski and therefore your uphill ski turns easier resulting in ski tips crossing. Stand more evenly balanced over both of your skis and start the ski pivot evenly as the pressure decreases as a result of up-unweighting.

post #7 of 15
PA Dad you are also probably leaning into the hill a bit so your downhill ski isn't releasing the edge. You have to commit to the pivot you asking your skis to do by getting over them initially. You can bend you uphill leg in to release that edge which is what you doing and why it comes over the downhill ski. You have to commit your body downhill a bit to release the downhill ski at the same time.

I agree the video had some nice skiing. I'm a technique geek but not qualified to comment. Makes me wonder sometimes if the net result of slightly different movement pattern practice can yield the same result. That being said I played with waist steering for a day and it threw me out of whack for a week !
post #8 of 15

Thank you both , now that I think about it  likely both spot on.  

I guess what I'm doing by instinct while skiing and turning (  up-unweight to initiate the turn , committing to pivot)  was missing when beginning  from stopped position.  I'll remember this next time on the hill. 

Thanks again 

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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
 

hrtele52 - thanks for watching. I was thinking the same, very student oriented. And Takaos skiing is super solid and smooth. I would love to take a lesson from him.

hrtele52 ha ha that is pretty clever.

 

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Is he paid by the word?
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Is he paid by the word?

 

Its funny but even if we think we don't talk much at all out there giving a lesson we still do.

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Originally Posted by PA Ski Dad View Post
 

I have terrible difficulty  with a move demonstrated in this video beginning around 5:25 , wondering if anyone had advice.     

 

When in a stopped position (or moving very slowly) with skis across the slope perpendicular to fall line   I cannot seem to perform the simultaneous rotation of skis to head down slope . 


 I always seem to have my uphill ski cross tips with the downhill ski as the downhill ski is harder to turn at same speed.  My guess is weighting issue as i have more weight on downhill ski at that point it's much easier to rotate uphill ski than downhill ski for me.  Instead I usually pick up downhill ski and turn it to face more downhill to get started.  

Any tips on technique or proper weighting that I can practice?

 

(Probably one of the many reasons I can't ski bumps ) 

 

Your issue is a classic one.  If you have to pick up the new inside ski to get it to turn at the start, you are most likely leaning in and your stance is likely aft at the start of your turns.

If you can talk yourself into bending your ankles forward (very important!) and standing tall enough to get your hips feeling like they are forward over your boots and not behind them, and doing this at the start of your turns, you will find that both skis may begin turn down the hill on their own.  Gravity will pull the tips down more if your weight is hovering over them; if your weight is behind over the tails, gravity is not going to assist your turn entry.  

 

Try this at a snail's pace on very gentle terrain.  Or better yet, try it from a dead standstill with skis facing across the hill.  

--bend forward at the ankles and elevate your hips so they are over your boots

--keep your elbows in front of your jacket side seams

--keep your hands forward (not down at your sides).  

--Then simply wait.  

--if you have gotten far enough forward over the shovels of your skis,

--they should begin to move ever-so-slightly forward and  also gently turn south.  

--If you lean your body backwards in the classic "NO! I don't want to go!" move, you'll stop this motion.  

 

Then go ski, moving up and forward over your skis at the start of your turns.  The tips should seek the fall line, and you won't have to pick up the new inside ski.  There are ways to fine tune this maneuver, but to keep it simple you might go try it first as described above and see what happens.  It can get you out of the back seat at the start of your turns.


Edited by LiquidFeet - 1/21/14 at 4:45pm
post #13 of 15
I don't know the language, but, judging from the movements:

The emphasis in the early part of the lesson (step one) is on pressuring the boot cuffs with the shins. I don't have time to go through the entire hour now.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by PA Ski Dad View Post

I have terrible difficulty  with a move demonstrated in this video beginning around 5:25 , wondering if anyone had advice.     

When in a stopped position (or moving very slowly) with skis across the slope perpendicular to fall line   I cannot seem to perform the simultaneous rotation of skis to head down slope . 


 I always seem to have my uphill ski cross tips with the downhill ski as the downhill ski is harder to turn at same speed.  My guess is weighting issue as i have more weight on downhill ski at that point it's much easier to rotate uphill ski than downhill ski for me.  Instead I usually pick up downhill ski and turn it to face more downhill to get started.  
Any tips on technique or proper weighting that I can practice?

(Probably one of the many reasons I can't ski bumps ) 

You need to release BOTH skis to start a turn. Try rolling the downhill foot toward the turn at the same time you start putting more weight onto the uphill.
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Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post

I don't know the language, but, judging from the movements:

The emphasis in the early part of the lesson (step one) is on pressuring the boot cuffs with the shins. I don't have time to go through the entire hour now.

I think all the swooping stuff later is drilling to emphasize the shin pressure movements and then to recenter in preparation for the subsequent turn. The wedge exercises help differentiate between edged and skidded turns. The pole touch exercises work on moving into turns.

Put all together, the idea I take away is it takes a lot of activity to get as much performance as that guy does out of the equipment.
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