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post #31 of 35
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LiquidFeet, Beyond, and DesiredUsername,

 

Thanks for the boot flex thoughts! 

 

I traded the 80 flex in yesterday for the 110!  Hopefully, they'll serve me well for years to come.  The boot guy even conceded that those boots should last me awhile.

 

I also dropped down a 1/2 size to 27.0.  Apparently the 27.5 and 27's share the same shell.  By dropping to the 27, the footbed is raised giving a tighter fit.  The difference between the 27 and 27.5 was noticeable.  With the smaller boot I have more pressure on my toes at the front and definitely a snug fit around my entire foot.  They're not terribly comfortable, but my hope is that they'll break in with use and alleviate some if not all of the pressure points.  When I flex my knee over my toe, the toe pressure releases and gives me a small amount of wiggle room.  I checked the boot with the liner out.  It looks as though I've got at least 1 finger clearance in the back, but definitely not two.  The last seems to be good.  My foot measures 102mm and the boot last is 104mm.  I do have some pressure on my small toe side that causes a bit of numbness.  I put the boots on again today for a couple hours to see if it continues. 

Excellent! When you have the experience of your toes touching in front when standing up normally, but wiggle room when flexing boot - as in skiing - and the one finger, you've homed in on a decent length. You can have the area around the small toe punched out by (that magic word) a competent boot fitter. If you can wait until you are slopeside, testing all those great skis, a better chance of meeting same. :) 

post #32 of 35
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Originally Posted by marznc View Post

 

Blizzard Bonafide &b Brahma

Volkl RTM 81, RTM 84, Kendo

Rossignol Experience 83, Experience 88, Soul 7

Head Rev 80 Pro, Rev 85 Pro, Supershape Magnum

Scott Reverse, Crusade, The Ski

K2 Rictor 90 XTI, Amp 80 XTI

 

 

 

Damn, those Blizzard skis get really good reviews.  Most people give the 5/5.

post #33 of 35
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
 

 You will eventually want to get an aftermarket footbed for that boot.

 

I bought a pair of Sidas footbeds today.  Quite a difference.  I didn't think my heel was moving around that much before, but with the addition of the footbed there's no question my foot feels glued to the boot.  Very nice!  Amazed at the feel when putting the boot on edge.

 

Couldn't stomach paying any more.  Think they'll work out great.

 

Thanks for help.

 

Hopefully, this will be it for boots for awhile.

 

Oh yeah, also had the inserts heated and molded to my foot.

 

Good stuff!

post #34 of 35

DirtVIking, 

Congrats;  you have moved past the first and most important level of ski gear purchases -- you have a well-fitted pair of boots.

 

Boots are prosthetics --  with after-market attachments (a.k.a., skis).  

Play around with all available skis to see what you like.  Then buy.

post #35 of 35
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I wanted to update my thread to let everyone know what I decided with skis.

 

I went ahead a purchased a pair of Head Rev 78's.  One word, Awesome!  I really like these skis.  The boot/ski combination is definitely better than anything I've ever experienced.  Thanks to all for the help!  I liked the skis so much, I went back to the shop where I purchased them and gave the salesman a high-five.  I decided to go with the 78's because I know that the majority of my skiing will be on groomers.  I can't imagine that my ability will catch up with the ski for this season or next...

 

I decided to buy instead of rent for 2 reasons.  Firstly, I knew I had about 10 rental days ahead of me and didn't want to throw money away (as I saw it.)  Secondly, I had a bad rental experience that pushed me over the edge.  

 

I rented a pair of skis a few weekends ago.  I walked into the rental shop with my own boots.  After an hour-long wait standing in line, they took some measurements of the boot, asked me a few questions and then set the bindings.  The girl never had me try the binding in the shop, which I now know was a mistake.  I presumed everything was set (she was the expert, right?) and was eager to get on the slopes.  I took the skis outside and got to skiing.  I had skied half the day and something didn't feel right.  I thought it was just me.  I felt like I was fighting the skis had presumed I was just having a bad day.  I was standing in line for the chair lift and hit my right ski on the ground to get the snow off it.  The toe of my boot popped out of the binding.  I put it back in the binding, hit the ski again and the toe popped out again.  I got my boot back in and started taking a closer look at the bindings.  I moved my boots back and forth slightly and they were moving, but the skis were not.  Now I could clearly see a gap between my boot toe and the binding (where there basically shouldn't be one.)  I brought the skis back up to the shop and told the guy that they weren't right.  He looked at them and said "you're right."  I told him to give me another pair of skis and he did.  We checked the bindings and everything from then on was fine.

 

I've since talked to the rental manager he agreed that they were set up incorrectly.  He told me there were about 5 ways that a boot could fit into a binding, but 1 of them was correct.  He also told me that the majority of people renting skis, also rent boots.  He thought for every 100 renters they get, about 2 have their own boots.  Additionally, they have fixed bindings matched to boots, so they rarely deal with a guy and his own boots and have to actually adjust bindings.  He said that wasn't an excuse and everyone was properly trained to deal with someone like me.  I told him that I was concerned that girl didn't know what she was doing and it would happen to someone again.  He appreciated the concern and ensured that all of his employees would become reacquainted with the proper binding set up, if they didn't know already.

 

I learned a lot from that experience, and decided that owning skis and having them maintained by someone I know would make me feel a bit more comfortable.

 

At least now, I won't have any excuses when it comes to the skis, boots or bindings.  I can now concentrate on skiing!

 

Thanks again for all the input.  You guys have helped immensely.

 

Jon

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