Originally Posted by tball
Originally Posted by anachronism
But have you ever skied an S7 in the bumps? Or similar ilk, with enough rocker/taper to make around 130cm or less running length on a 190 ski? Honest to god, I think I would rather have S7's on my feet in bumps than an S3.
Not an S7, but I've been on a number of 110+ demos, but only on powder days and super soft bumps. They were fun in pow bumps, but I'm pretty sure would all be a handful in firm bumps.
So, I did buy a 110 Sickle. For the fun of it, I'm going see how far I can push them to work in bumps (I know it's not the same shape as the S7, and that's by choice for other conditions). I'm not hopeful for the Sickle in firm bumps, though, as I've yet to see anyone rip a zipper line on a 110. I'm thinking of shooting video skiing the exact same zipper line on my 80, 90, 110 quiver. I think it would be pretty clear how much more difficult bumps become on wide skis. Length, flex and side cut matter too, of course.
Dragging this up from page 1... I've got a lot of mileage on my 110 Sickles in the bumps the last few weeks thanks to all the amazing snow in Colorado. Here's what I found, which I'd guess more or less applies to a lot of 110 rockered skis in the bumps:
In super soft bumps they are a hoot. Think of enough snow where you can't get an edge in and there is no noise but a whoosh when you carve. Absolute blast.
Once the bumps are tracked up so you can get an edge in and hear your skis carve, a narrower, quicker ski is much better for zipper line bump skiing. I was happily surprised how well the Sickle can still ski the zipper line in these firmer conditions, but not happy about the relatively slow speed limit in doing so. They just are not quick enough, and maybe more importantly, are not stiff enough for fast zipper line bump skiing once you can engage your edges.
My last day at the Jane there was 4-6 new on top of a few inches new every night the prior week. It was a super soft powder day in the morning, then tracked up in the afternoon. I spent most the day on my Sickles and had an absolute blast, but as the bumps got tracked out I had to ski the zipper line slower than I'd prefer. I pulled out my 90mm Steadfasts for the last few runs for comparison and took a couple of exact same laps I had just done on the Sickles including The Chutes, Cannonball, Long Haul, top of Phantom, Boiler, and various trees in the neighborhood.
I found I very much preferred the Steadfasts in the tracked out bumps once you can edge. The stiffness, quickness, narrower width, and overall seriousness of the Steadfast allowed me to rip a much faster zipper line. On those same runs in the softer trees and in the getting firm but still edgable Chutes, I preferred my Sickles. The edge engagement on the tips and tails that helped in the bumps was a liability in the tight chutes and trees where a wider rockered ski was much easier turning.
In general, I don't think a wider rockered ski is as bad for bump skiing as I once though, or at least my Sickle isn't. They're just bad for fast zipper line bump skiing (duh). Nothing really revolutionary here... just thought I'd share my experience.
Edited by tball - 2/12/14 at 9:54am