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Head Rev 85 vs Atomic Crimson Ti

post #1 of 13
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About me: 40 years old, 6.2, 202lb, 35+ years on the slopes, max 2 weeks per year, ski mostly aggressively, maybe 70% on groomed and 30% on powder, no mogul or trees, like to carve quick but also like stability at speed. I moved from the East Coast to the West Coast and will be going to Colorado. I only skied narrow skies before and I am reluctant to go to 90 + mm. I narrowed it down to Head Rev 85 vs Atomic Crimson Ti. Has anybody skied both? I am open to other suggestions. Thanks.

post #2 of 13
1. Demo

2. Demo

3. Try a range of skis, including the two you mentioned. Given your height, weight, "aggressive" ski style, and the fact you'll be skiing in Colorado, mostly on piste, I think you'd want something with some heft (i.e., with some metal) -- not "finesse" skis -- although it wouldn't hurt to try one or two. You may find that skis up to 98 waist would work for you -- but if not, and you're just demo-ing, trade them in after a couple runs and try something narrower.

4. Some other skis to consider: Blizzard Brahma, Head Rev 90, Blizzard Bonafide, Line Prophet 90 and 98, Volkl Mantra, the black Nordica (what the heck's the name of that one?).* If you want to stay under 90 width: also try the Fischer Motive 86.

5. Others here likely will agree with my first two points, but may have way better ideas on points 3 and 4...



* Of these skis, I've only tried the Brahma. My recommendations of the others are based on second-hand information.
post #3 of 13

6.  Don't write off 90-95mm.     At your size there will be noticeable, desirable difference in float especially when there is thin new snow on top of boilerplate.      Or when you don't have a truly fat pair and there's deep powder up there.

post #4 of 13
I've skied both, and for your size, I'd say try the Head Rev 90 in a 184. Mount the binding +1. Or a Volkl Kendo.
post #5 of 13

I have skied both.  Very different!

 

REV 85; softer tip, more playful, quick edge to edge, nimble, forgiving.

 

Crimson TI: a bit more damp, stable, serious, not demanding though. Not quite as playful, more stability.

 

I can see more aggressive skiers liking the Atomic better; skiers who like a more shapely feel and playful nature getting the REV 85.  Rev on smaller hills, Crimson on larger. 

post #6 of 13

both are great, but feel different. there's no way to answer it, you have to try them and decide. i know it can be hard to demo, but it's the only way to really know what you will like. or just buy one and enjoy it!

post #7 of 13

My Rev 85 Pro are a LOT of fun.  Haven't tried the Atomics.

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
 

My Rev 85 Pro are a LOT of fun.  Haven't tried the Atomics.

shit, i may be getting some: my crimson are de-laminating after a brutal rock hit/edge blowout.

post #9 of 13

Dawg...great summary.  I'm getting a warranty replacement pair of CrimsonTi's in a week via my local shop.  Great warranty support by Atomic, BTW!

 

But...I was thinking of swapping to try the Rev85's.   I'm 5'9", 165 and really enjoyed the two seasons on my Atomics...but spending more time skiing with my kids who keep me below the Crimson's preferred speed range.  "Serious" is a great way to describe their feel.  Wondered if the Head's would be more playful as you say, at lower speeds with the kids...while still holding up for fast bombing on my own or with my friends on guy trips. 

 

Multiple Western trips mixed in with 3-4 East coast weekends.  I like carvier skis and like the dampness of the Crimsons at speed...very planted and stable.  They do like to go fast.

 

b_radley

post #10 of 13

Why not the Titans instead of the Rev then? Very playful with the turn radius and tail kick and can still handle some serious speed too?

post #11 of 13
Interes
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

I have skied both.  Very different!

REV 85; softer tip, more playful, quick edge to edge, nimble, forgiving.

Crimson TI: a bit more damp, stable, serious, not demanding though. Not quite as playful, more stability.

I can see more aggressive skiers liking the Atomic better; skiers who like a more shapely feel and playful nature getting the REV 85.  Rev on smaller hills, Crimson on larger. 

My take... Agree that the Rev 85 feels 'turnier' and 'lighter'. The crimson for me was an oddity... On paper it should have been better on piste than off, it it wasn't.
On piste, the Atomic Ritual is IMHO superior in most ways even at 103 underfoot. Off piste the Crimson was suprizingly not too bad. The ski that splits the difference between the feel of the Rev 85 and the Crimsom is the Rev 90... Damper feel than the 85, a bit longer radius, and for me, more balanced on and off piste than the Crimson Ti.

That said, I'm going to work on a 184 Rev 85pro with a race plate and Freeflex 16 binding this season. The plate is said to substantially up the torsional stiffness and power of the ski at the expense of some of the 'ease' generally associated with the 85 pro. . We'll see and jot down a review after spending a few days on it. Also have the Titans ('13-'14) .. Different creature than the Rev or Crimson all together. I don't really see too much of a performance overlap between a rev 85 and a Titan even though the Rev is a mere 4mm wider. In the same length (177), the Titan is much more ski on piste, but less versatile off for most. Off piste on dry, chalky snow on the Titan is fine though, and have taught and skied on them in those conditions a good bit. Heavy, wet, wind effected, then the Rev 90 is the pick of the skis above. As a rule,with the Rev series, don't ski them short if you're a 190+ lb. expert skier with a solid skill set.

For anyone doing their L2 or L3, the Rev 85 pro and Rossi E-88 are fairly common sites on the hill in these parts for versatile all arounders that one can do tasks with precision and handle most things thrown their way during and exam. FWIW...

My .02€
Edited by markojp - 9/27/14 at 5:13am
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by B Radley View Post

Dawg...great summary.  I'm getting a warranty replacement pair of CrimsonTi's in a week via my local shop.  Great warranty support by Atomic, BTW!

But...I was thinking of swapping to try the Rev85's.   I'm 5'9", 165 and really enjoyed the two seasons on my Atomics...but spending more time skiing with my kids who keep me below the Crimson's preferred speed range.  "Serious" is a great way to describe their feel.  Wondered if the Head's would be more playful as you say, at lower speeds with the kids...while still holding up for fast bombing on my own or with my friends on guy trips. 

Multiple Western trips mixed in with 3-4 East coast weekends.  I like carvier skis and like the dampness of the Crimsons at speed...very planted and stable.  They do like to go fast.

b_radley

If it were in your budget, a Stockli storm rider 88 would be a great choice for what you're describing, and don't overlook the Dynastar Powertrack 89... an excellent and fun ski, but at your size and weight, the Rev85 pro will work well and like to turn more readily than the Atomics. Rev 90 if you want more 'damp'. smile.gif
Edited by markojp - 9/27/14 at 5:16am
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by B Radley View Post
 

Dawg...great summary.  I'm getting a warranty replacement pair of CrimsonTi's in a week via my local shop.  Great warranty support by Atomic, BTW!

 

But...I was thinking of swapping to try the Rev85's.   I'm 5'9", 165 and really enjoyed the two seasons on my Atomics...but spending more time skiing with my kids who keep me below the Crimson's preferred speed range.  "Serious" is a great way to describe their feel.  Wondered if the Head's would be more playful as you say, at lower speeds with the kids...while still holding up for fast bombing on my own or with my friends on guy trips. 

 

Multiple Western trips mixed in with 3-4 East coast weekends.  I like carvier skis and like the dampness of the Crimsons at speed...very planted and stable.  They do like to go fast.

 

b_radley

 

 

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http://www.epicski.com/t/127699/head-rev-90-185-fks-14s-skied-2-days-only-super-deal-350

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