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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I'm new to the site and looking for some advice on a new all mountain ski.  I've been skiing Nordica Afterburners (186cm) for the past 4 years, but they got damaged beyond repair by the lovely baggage handlers at United so now I need a replacement.

 

I'm 6'2" and about 200 lbs.  I ski mostly on the east coast, with usually one trip out west a year.  I'd think I'm advanced, perhaps intermediate/advanced from a skill level.  I ski mostly groomers and moguls, but I want something that I can also take to the bowls when I head out west and that will help push me further as a skier.

 

I'm not looking to break the bank with new skis.  Some of what I was looking at so far included Line Prophet 85s, Atomic Theory (2013) and the Salomon Rocker2 92, but I'm not locked into anything as of yet.

 

Also, in moving from a ski without rocker to one with rocker, I'm not sure if I should go longer than the 186cm I have now.

post #2 of 17

Familiar with the Afterburners and several other Nordies, although shorter lengths. Why not the Steadfast? Has the same feel, think mild front rocker, will hold up to most eastern hardpack but should serve you well out west. (Where contrary to popular lore, you don't always face a foot of new powder.) The Hell n Back is also a fine ski, would suggest a demo, would be better out west, not as rewarding back east. As far as the other skis you name, they're a lot different in mission than your Afterburners. You will not like the Rocker2 92 on hardpack or ice, and at your weight, it'll fold on you like a pretzel. Period. The Theory, I've been told, is a great all-around ski aimed at softer snow; have been told it's OK on ice and hardpack, but not great. Might be worth demoing. Cannot speak to the Prophet 85, but I've never skied a Line that was worth much on hardpack, and I don't view them as skis for bigger guys; may be wrong there. 

post #3 of 17

I'm about your size and weight... Suggestions I made in another thread:

Enduro 850 xt: tested in 177: liked them a lot and think that in 184 would have been a killer for me.good carver, nice edge hold, didn't tried them out of groomers

Enduro 800 xt: tested in 184: too soft for me

Head rev 85: use to have a pair in 177: too soft, sold it

Kendo: used to have a pair in 177: would buy it again but in 18?... good edge hold, nice in bumps and trees

Crimson ti 2014 in 178: loved them on groomed, crud and icy conditions but less in bumps ( don't like the cap/sidewall/cap construction)

 

All the next skis have really nice grip and ski really nice in bumps and trees...

Kastle fx84 in 184: also nice carver (low energy carving), perfect flex for bumps and trees

mx88: also nice carver with higher energy+ good in crud

Elan Amphibio 88: the nicest carver of the bunch!

Nordica Steadfast: solid, light and snappy! I often go for the glades at Jay on this one... the stiffest of the bunch!

 

The Hell and Back? Yes if you want something larger...

post #4 of 17

Another vote for the Steadfast.  I'm into my third season with it as my daily driver.  I'm about 5'8" and 150 pounds and it has plenty of rebound for me, very responsive and quick.  I ski mostly off piste, in Montana, and generally see at least a moderate amount of fresh snow every year.  I've skied them in around 20" of powder and they were fine.  They're quick in the trees and fine in bumps, at least for me.  When I have to get on a groomer to get to a lift, they can be like riding rails.  You should be able to find some to demo.  The H&B is basically the same ski but 8mm wider.  

post #5 of 17

The hell is also softer flex...

post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by mogsie View Post
 

The hell is also softer flex...

I made a couple runs on the 2013 H&B last year at Snowbasin and did not notice that it was softer.

post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

I made a couple runs on the 2013 H&B last year at Snowbasin and did not notice that it was softer.

Well then you're gonna have to take my word for it cause I own both and the steadfast is stiffer ...(doesn't mean that the H&B is not on the stiff side too...)

post #8 of 17
I thought the Steadfast had metal. H&B doesn't.
post #9 of 17

None has metal

post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

I made a couple runs on the 2013 H&B last year at Snowbasin and did not notice that it was softer.

It is. Considerably. The steadfast has a thicker section.
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mogsie View Post

I'm about your size and weight... Suggestions I made in another thread:



Enduro 850 xt: tested in 177: liked them a lot and think that in 184 would have been a killer for me.good carver, nice edge hold, didn't tried them out of groomers



Enduro 800 xt: tested in 184: too soft for me



Head rev 85: use to have a pair in 177: too soft, sold it



Kendo: used to have a pair in 177: would buy it again but in 18?... good edge hold, nice in bumps and trees



Crimson ti 2014 in 178: loved them on groomed, crud and icy conditions but less in bumps ( don't like the cap/sidewall/cap construction)



 



All the next skis have really nice grip and ski really nice in bumps and trees...



Kastle fx84 in 184: also nice carver (low energy carving), perfect flex for bumps and trees



mx88: also nice carver with higher energy+ good in crud



Elan Amphibio 88: the nicest carver of the bunch!



Nordica Steadfast: solid, light and snappy! I often go for the glades at Jay on this one... the stiffest of the bunch!



 



The Hell and Back? Yes if you want something larger...



What size steadfast did you ride? I mis-typed above and my afterburners are 178. I was thinking of moving up to 186, but I was pretty happy with the 178 Aftwrburners
post #12 of 17
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What size steadfast did you ride? I mis-typed above and my afterburners are 178. I was thinking of moving up to 186, but I was pretty happy with the 178 Aftwrburners

My Steadfast are 178 but could definitly go to 186...especially with the rocker...

post #13 of 17
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Well then you're gonna have to take my word for it cause I own both and the steadfast is stiffer ...(doesn't mean that the H&B is not on the stiff side too...)

Not disputing it at all.  I demoed them on the last day of the demos and hadn't been on my own skis in a week.

post #14 of 17
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Not disputing it at all.  I demoed them on the last day of the demos and hadn't been on my own skis in a week.

You have demos that last more than a day? That's nice! It happened to me this year: I demoed a ski and just loved it! The next day, the conditions were very different, so I went to the shop that did the demo and ask if I could demo them today too, they said yes! Didn't like the skis anymore in those conditions...:(    I was lucky that the guy said yes!

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by mogsie View Post
 

You have demos that last more than a day? 

 

This was at the industry demo days at Snowbasin.  I was there as part of a team from a local ski shop.  I demoed around 14 skis over two days.

post #16 of 17

Nice!

post #17 of 17

I think you would love the Hell & Backs. I'm 6' and 185 lbs and I have the 185: just a blast and no problem lengthwise. My girlfriend (5'7" and 128 lbs) just demoed and bought the Steadfast in 170. They're just a bit stiffer (which sounds right, knowing she's a more agressive and technically accomplished skier than I am).

 

Either ski will work great for you, I think. Don't go too short, though.

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