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Changed my thoughts on this do to responses on AT skis and looking into some advanced avie courses. So will use the X-14s for at least a season of AT. I'm thinking that I will get out 10 to 15 days- 5 day trip or course- 5 days skiing out of bounds and 5 days bc. Will not use AT setup for inbounds skiing and will only be using AT to get powder though on the 5 day trip you can run into anything.

For bindings JS has convinced me that I don't need the Freerides and that the DIIs will be just fine. But what end of the AT Boot spectrum to go for? Don't think I need anything really stiff as won't be using inbounds at all. So my range would be from the Dynafit Tourlite 3 to the Scarpa Lazer. I'm leaning to the Nordica TR12 as its quite a bit cheaper than the Lazer and is very common around here as 9 times of ogf 10 if you see a AT boot its a Nordica. Will probably get them at www.kootenayexperience.com/cgi-bin/Web_store/web_store.cgi?product=alpine_tourin g_boots as they have a pretty good price on DIIs right now also.

Though can get a pair of the Dynafit TOUR LITE TECH 3P for $100 US which if it can work is a good price as I'm only going to be using 15 days a year.

[ August 12, 2002, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: dougw ]
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here's a modified version of some reviews I've posted elsewhere before...

Dynafit Tourlite 3: indeed light (even lighter if you can get the version w/o the Dynafit interface, should you be committed to Diamirs), not as soft as you would expect, and can be obtained ridiculously cheaply, which was my reason for getting them for my wife as her starter AT boots. But when she got new boots she noticed a bit improvement in control, and this is coming from a 115 woman who likes to ski at moderate speeds on moderate terrain.

Scarpa: The Denali has many fans, but strikes me as a mediocre alpine downhill boot with a rubber sole. The ski/walk switch has little effect. (I had trouble figuring out which mode I was in.) By contrast, the Laser (and my wife’s Magics) is very impressive: a bit softer, but w/ a far more effective ski/walk switch, and far better for walking, climbing, skinning. Overall, the best of both worlds.

Lowa Struktura: softer in ski mode than the Laser, but with a magical ski/walk switch & hinged tongue that almost transforms it into a plastic mountaineering boot. EVO version is stiffer, but accomplishes this by ditching the hinged tongue, reducing weight a bit but also mitigating somewhat that magical feeling in walk mode.

Dynafit TLT All Terrain: another worthy choice, especially since you can buy it with the Thermoflex liner, which is super light and just sucks your foot into the boot like a comfy slipper. (The contrast between this and an older model with a regular liner was dramatic.) Beware of salesmen who try to oversell the Thermoflex: the customization will help eliminate hotspots, but will not fill voids (unlike a foam or silicone custom liner).

Garmont GSM: I’ve used these for two seasons now, very happy, especially w/ all my mods. The G-fit liners (which came out after I bought mine) are supposed to be even better than the Thermoflex. The new G-Lite boot is supposed to be much lighter, yet still skis almost as well. The new G-Ride is supposed to be almost as light, yet even stiffer, w/ 4 buckles. Some great deals might be available though on unsold GSM boots.

Nordica TR10 & 12 (and old TR 9): despite the positive reviews, these boots are ludicrously soft. The range of motion in walk mode is great, but for skiing the switch blocks only the rearward flex, and keeps the forward flex softer even than Nordica’s most noodly beginner alpine downhill rental boots. How can Couloir and Backcountry mag often review it as a downhill-oriented AT boot?!? Sure, it is possible to ski well in it, but why handicap yourself?

Finally, for what's worth, the following breakdown of the 90 or so ski mountaineers at La Refuge d’Argentierre in April 2001 was fairly representative of what I saw overall in Chamonix:

dominant choice = Scarpa (mainly the Laser, including the women’s “Magic” version and the stripped-down “Vector” version)
distant second = various Dynafit models
several telemarkers (mainly American)
some Nordica boots
a few Lowa boots
a few other softer boots (Koflach, etc.)
one single pair (i.e., mine) of Garmont GSM in all of Chamonix!
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Jonathan's review is excellent and corresponds very closely with what has been my experience. I started out on Dynafits (TLT4) and skied them for about three seasons. Loved them for hiking/skinning because they were soft, light, and flexible. Pretty much disliked them for skiing, on the other hand, as they just didn't give a lot of support. I haven't tried the TLT All Terrain, but I've heard good things about them.

I demoed the Garmont GSM a couple of years ago and liked them a great deal. They were comfortable to walk in and very nice to ski.

I've not skied the Nordicas, but I know of a couple of pretty good skiers who feel they're just a bit too gushy.

I ended up buying the Scarpa Lazer, partly because of the Dynafit compatibility (I have Dynafit bindings) but also because I was able to get a deal. To put it as simply as possible, I love those boots. They hike well and ski well, with all the downhill control I need.

Good luck.

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