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Volkl Kendo vs. Blizzard Brahma?

post #1 of 14
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So I am looking to get new skis and have narrowed down the selection to the Kendos and the Brahmas. Im 14 yrs old, 6'3", 185 lbs and I primarily ski in Beaver Creek Colorado. I am an advanced skier but I am looking for a ski that I can really take anywhere on the mountain. I want something grippy for all edge turns on groomers but I need something to plow thru crud and pow and to use for gladed and mogul runs. I demoed both skis and was leaning more towards the Kendo. Now im not so sure on which to get after the Brahma handled great in the powder today. Please help!
post #2 of 14

I love my 2013 Kendo in 177. I'm shorter than you, but around the same weight--I think you'll really like them. I find them to be fine in the conditions you describe, and their minimal rocker will increase the running length and therefore edge grip. They're fine in pow up to a foot or so.

post #3 of 14
I have the 2012? Kendo without rocker and it has excellent edge hold. Great on the groomers at speed, and on ice. Your mileage may very on the bumps and powder.
post #4 of 14

I have the 2011 Kendo's and 2010 Gotama's both full camber. I have demoed the 2014 Kendo's and there is basically no difference from my Kendo's with over 90 day's on them. I do my own tuning.

 

I'm 5' 11" 200lbs and ski them in 177cm, my Got's are 176cm, home mt is Okemo VT.

 

At your age and ability I'd say you should get the Kendo in 177cm. They have great edge hold and will handle any speed you can give them.

 

Yesterday I was dropping my hip in the turn and had to raise my inside hand to keep from hitting the snow.

 

For the deeper snow they will be fine until you can get something fatter later on. Monday we had 8-10" of fresh, my buddies wife, 5' 105lbs was fine on her Kenja's. She has K2 Fat luv's, no metal, and her husband came out on his Mantra's. After the second run he went back to the condo and got his 2014 Gotama's, she was thinking about getting her fat luv's but I reminded her the snow was going to get piled/bumped up fast. The Kenja's with metal would not get deflected by the piles. She agreed.

 

Later she thanked me for suggesting she stay on the Kenja's. It was also his first powder day on the Got's, he's been on K2 Chiefs, no metal for a few seasons. After a few fast runs thru the cut up powder he said, why does Volkl, a german company name there skis after Monks, they should call these the Bismark, these things drive thru the snow like a battle ship.

 

Don't under estimate the use for metal in a powder ski.

 

FWIW, the Brahma is also a great ski, I just didn't care for the tip movement when skied on firmer snow.

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 . . .   . After the second run he went back to the condo and got his 2014 Gotama's. . . .

 

. . . . It was also his first powder day on the Got's, he's been on K2 Chiefs, no metal for a few seasons. After a few fast runs thru the cut up powder he said, why does Volkl, a german company name there skis after Monks, they should call these the Bismark, these things drive thru the snow like a battle ship.

 

Don't under estimate the use for metal in a powder ski.

. . . and still no metal.  The current generation Gots are wood core with glass. No metal. 

post #6 of 14

If you demoed both and preferred the Kendo.....why even ask? You are the one skiing them so your opinion is the one that counts the most.

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. . . and still no metal.  The current generation Gots are wood core with glass. No metal. 

Pretty sure current Goats also have carbon as part of the torsion box. Think they started that back around 2008 or so. Could be wrong.

 

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If you demoed both and preferred the Kendo.....why even ask? You are the one skiing them so your opinion is the one that counts the most.

This. 

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by LewyM View Post

. . . and still no metal.  The current generation Gots are wood core with glass. No metal. 

 



Thanks for the correction. Appears they did a good job in keeping them torsionaly stiff. I'll have to pick his up tomorrow when we take a mid morning break to warm up. Mine are pretty heavy with the Duke binding on them.
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

 

 

FWIW, the Brahma is also a great ski, I just didn't care for the tip movement when skied on firmer snow.

 

never had tip movement on my Brahmas, yet to try the new rockered Kendo though......

post #10 of 14

177 Kendo is the best ski I have been on in years. I can do everything I want to with it. Long GS turns, short swing, incredible ice hold and riddin on rails at mach speed. I am a eastern skier out of Ohio in small hills with trips to New York and coming up Telluride. They are my do anything go anywhere ski. 

post #11 of 14

Having said that I cant wait to try the Brahmas. With all the Volkl guys working for Blizzard maybe I am missing something! Ski Mag 2015 buyers guide sure thinks so for whatever thats worth. 

post #12 of 14

It's been a while no one posted on this entry. So I wanna throw my $.02. I just demoed both Kendo and Brahma on Friday at Loon NH with the intention of buying whichever I liked more. My current skis are Volkl Tigershark 12 ft in 175cm. As a Volkl owner, I was biased towards the Kendo before the demo. In addition, skiessentials.com currently has 2014 Kendo's available in all sizes at a cheap price (~500$ with Griffon bindings & w/15% off coupon). So I was really hoping the Kendo was going to beat the Brahma. I demoed Kendo in 177 and Brahma in 180. I am 34 6'4" 240lbs, I'd say I'm a level 4 out of 5 on hardpack and -4 (negative 4) out of 5 in bumps/moguls. Skied many resorts in East Coast and so far the only double blacks I was scared to enter were Rumor at Gore, White Nitro at Sugarloaf, and even on baby moguls I usually hate my life. It's like a road biker hating to go on a mountain bike trail. :) That may give you an idea about my level. Anyways coming back to the demoing experience, I hated, absolutely hated the Kendo. It was crazy stiff. I couldn't bend that thing even with my 240lbs weight. I went as fast as I could but that didn't help at all. Skis didn't damp anything, felt like a racing car with no shock absorption. After three runs, I was 100% sure Kendo was not going to fit me. Then got back on with the Brahmas. The difference was like night and day. Very very quick edge to edge. Amazing edge hold. Felt very secure and stable on high speeds. I can't tell more about this ski. I skied probably a good 4 hours with the Brahma. My deal with the demo center was three skis for the day, so I wanted to give a shot for the Blizzard Bonafide (on 180cm). Never skied on a 100mm under foot before so wanted to experience that too. The Bonafide actually felt even better than the Brahma with the exception of the effort I was putting in. It was very good to edge to edge, it ripped through ice like it was nothing. Definitely had better floating capability. But I always felt that beefiness under my foot, almost the same feeling as running with ankle weights. It was not as nimble as the Brahma and for East Coast conditions and the type of skiing I do, Brahma felt like the right one. However, if you are on West Coast or would like to do more off-piste than piste, definitely consider the Bonafide. 

 

On my way back home, stopped at a local ski shop at Lincoln. They had all sizes available in Brahmas. Ended up buying 187cm with Salomon STH2 13 bindings for 800$ after a little bargaining. Speaking of the binding, the demos had Griffons. Though I didn't have any issue while I skied, it was very difficult to release. I had to use all my power to push that lever. I felt like I was going to bend my ski pole at some point. I asked the guys if they had any other alternative and they said they actually prefer the STH2 over the Griffon. They were the same price anyways. Now I can't wait for skiing on my new Brahmas!!!

 

Little long entry but I hope this would help if you are trying to decide between the Kendo and Brahma. Finally, I can't speak more for the importance of demoing. Do not just buy something just because there is a good deal going on or some guy at the shop loves that ski. When you shop for cars or bikes, you test them. Why not skis? It costs a little bit but will save you a lot in the end.

post #13 of 14

Why not buy the Brahma in 180 if that's what you demoed and liked? Just curious

post #14 of 14
unfortunately they didn't have 187 to demo fleet. They on had 180 and 173. but even before the demo i was leaning towards the 187 based on the reviews. (184 for Kendo) there is even a thread here for Brahma's length. because I never ski moguls I thought it was fine to go big. 187's actual length is 185ish (measured with tape measure). Coming just to my eye level no boots on. Should give little more stability at high speeds and better floatation for my weight.
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