Yeah, still 70ish waist (I thought it was marked 71 or I may have got that from the rep) . Supposedly not changed much apart from the graphics. I am quite sensitive to tip flex so it may be just my preference, I don't remember it being an issue on this years ski but I could be having a senior moment. I still prefer the women's 183/25 though, especially my blizzards. I am not exactly a heavy weight @ 165 so not quite sure how it would be seen as "too much ski", it seems pretty easy to ski but I guess others MMV.
Sounds like good results on the junior ski . I guess in nastar the smaller ski would be quicker to get up to speed and easier to bend, I would have concerns about its longevity though for a skier more than 140 .. Again, just my POV
Agree that a 183/25 FIS ski would be higher performance (for those who have the skills) than the wider GS Master. I think the people who told me they thought the GS Master 23 was too much ski were expecting a true cheater GS, more in line with their skills.
I took the Atomic Junior GS (175/23.5) out again yesterday. I borrowed this thing last weekend, and don't have to return it until this weekend, so I figured I might as well get some more time on it. Last weekend, the snow was rock hard, and I found their limit at really high speeds. Yesterday, the snow was normal - firm but not ice - and the skis worked perfectly at my 200 + lb weight, even at their top end. As far as longevity, the skis have the X16 binding, and the D2 upperdeck is the same one Atomic uses on the women's 183 FIS skis. The skis seem to be pretty stout, built at least as heavy as a top end adult all mountain ski. Will these things have the performance of an adult FIS GS? More than likely not, but they were designed as FIS GS for high level junior racers, and I have seen top level U16 boys put more power into a ski than most adult skiers ever will.