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Holiday Valley and Wisp trip report

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Spent Friday after Xmas at Holiday Valley. It snowed 4 inches of lake effect the night before, so conditions were pretty good, with coverage on most trails excellent and soft until mid-afternoon. They still need more to open some of the steeps and off trail, but we had a fun day cruising around. Luckily I think we missed the crowds too - hard to predict how people are taking vacation this year, but Friday wasn't busy at all.

 

We also spent a soggy but essentially 'private ski mountain day' at Wisp in Maryland before Xmas. Hopefully we'll make it back there in better conditions as the 360 degrees skiing looked like it creates plenty of options.

 

There's a video and longer report at http://gortonator.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/xmas-skiing-in-er-maryland/

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How does Wisp compare to Seven Springs or Blue Knob?

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How does Wisp compare to Seven Springs or Blue Knob?


I don't know any well enough to compare properly - only moved to Pittsburgh in February. I think 7 Springs might have the best terrain of the 3 off the Gunnar chair, but I find much of the rest of the hill a little average and busy on front side. I think Blue Knob would be excellent when the blacks/trees are open - we skied some of them last year and they were a bit sketchy. Still, that flat upper mountain is not too exciting and the double chair deathly slow. Wisp certainly felt like it had more variety. Not certain you get the full 700ft vertical off any chair, but you can link runs off chairs to cruise around.

 

I was impressed with their snow making - most of mountain was open before Xmas and 7 Springs still as I type only has 1 black run off Gunnar open. If they get more open, we'll go on Wednesday. Otherwise, back to Wisp.

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How does Wisp compare to Seven Springs or Blue Knob?


Less elevation, much shorter runs, more beginner- and intermediate-focused, cheaper. (My observation.) IMHO, on a good day Blue Knob is much more interesting. On a bad day, I'd probably expect to have more fun, variety, and probably quality at 7Springs (if I can stomach the cost).

 

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Always wondered about Wisp.  I drive north from NC to Massanutten, VA for assorted reasons.  One being that the vertical is 1100', with 825' for the two blacks at the top of the mountain with a separate lift that is never busy.  Didn't realize until a few years ago that was more vertical than most places in PA.  Last season I got a taste of Blue Knob at the EpicSki/DCSki Gathering in late Feb.  Was a total ice fest the first day because of freezing rain but quite fun the second.  Heard about 7Springs from the Pittsburgh folks who were sharing the same slopeside house.

 

Do you know about the plans for the EpicSki Mid-A Gathering at Timberline, Feb. 21-13?

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/123478/its-official-timberline

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How does Wisp compare to Seven Springs or Blue Knob?


I don't know any well enough to compare properly - only moved to Pittsburgh in February. . . .

Did you know that the Resorts Editor, @Laurel Hill Crazie , is in Pittsburgh?

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Did you know that the Resorts Editor, @Laurel Hill Crazie , is in Pittsburgh?


I did not - hi Laurel

 

Wisp or 7 Springs tomorrow and hopefully Thursday, when we might get some old school snow ;)

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Always wondered about Wisp.  I drive north from NC to Massanutten, VA for assorted reasons.  One being that the vertical is 1100', with 825' for the two blacks at the top of the mountain with a separate lift that is never busy.  Didn't realize until a few years ago that was more vertical than most places in PA.  Last season I got a taste of Blue Knob at the EpicSki/DCSki Gathering in late Feb.  Was a total ice fest the first day because of freezing rain but quite fun the second.  Heard about 7Springs from the Pittsburgh folks who were sharing the same slopeside house.

 

Do you know about the plans for the EpicSki Mid-A Gathering at Timberline, Feb. 21-13?

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/123478/its-official-timberline

 

Thx fro info - I'll check this out. With luck we can make the Timberline weekend - will know for sure in a couple of weeks when work schedules are finalized.Sounds like fun.

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Hi gortonator and outlier, welcome to EpicSki. I ski Seven Springs often because it is so close, Blue Knob next when the cover is good. I haven't skied Wisp since before their expansion on the north flank of the ridge. If I drive that way I go an extra hour to ski Timberline, where our gathering will be held. I hope you both will consider going. Welcome to Mid-Atlantic skiing, gortonator.

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Hi gortonator and outlier, welcome to EpicSki. I ski Seven Springs often because it is so close, Blue Knob next when the cover is good. I haven't skied Wisp since before their expansion on the north flank of the ridge. If I drive that way I go an extra hour to ski Timberline, where our gathering will be held. I hope you both will consider going. Welcome to Mid-Atlantic skiing, gortonator.


Will certainly try and make the gathering. I saw your thread on planning but for some reason it wouldn't load or I didn't have permissions to view?

 

Hoping 7 Springs will get the North Face runs open ASAP - that area is pretty fun and with the 6-pack you get some skiing in there. May go Thursday, if not, weekend of 11-12th. Maybe see you up there sometime for some turns.

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Hi gortonator and outlier, welcome to EpicSki. I ski Seven Springs often because it is so close, Blue Knob next when the cover is good. I haven't skied Wisp since before their expansion on the north flank of the ridge. If I drive that way I go an extra hour to ski Timberline, where our gathering will be held. I hope you both will consider going. Welcome to Mid-Atlantic skiing, gortonator.


Will certainly try and make the gathering. I saw your thread on planning but for some reason it wouldn't load or I didn't have permissions to view?

 

Hoping 7 Springs will get the North Face runs open ASAP - that area is pretty fun and with the 6-pack you get some skiing in there. May go Thursday, if not, weekend of 11-12th. Maybe see you up there sometime for some turns.

Hmm . . . the thread I referenced is in an EpicSki Group.  Look for a Join button (top right corner I think).  I thought the thread could be seen by non-members but it depends on how the Group is set up.  Once you are in the Group, then you'll get notified when someone posts to any of the Group threads.

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North Face at 7-Springs is open gortonator, and has been for at least a couple of weeks. All of it is not open, but North Face and Gunnar are both open. More terrain will likely open the end of this week with cold temps here and natural snow on the way.

I was there yesterday and today teaching and the conditions were improving steadily with natural snowfall yesterday afternoon and all day today, and snow guns blowing additional snow. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the mountain is open by the weekend.

I won't be back up to teach till Friday and Saturday and expect to see lots more snow!
Mike
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Will certainly try and make the gathering. I saw your thread on planning but for some reason it wouldn't load or I didn't have permissions to view?

Hoping 7 Springs will get the North Face runs open ASAP - that area is pretty fun and with the 6-pack you get some skiing in there. May go Thursday, if not, weekend of 11-12th. Maybe see you up there sometime for some turns.
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North Face at 7-Springs is open gortonator, and has been for at least a couple of weeks. All of it is not open, but North Face and Gunnar are both open. More terrain will likely open the end of this week with cold temps here and natural snow on the way.

I was there yesterday and today teaching and the conditions were improving steadily with natural snowfall yesterday afternoon and all day today, and snow guns blowing additional snow. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the mountain is open by the weekend.

I won't be back up to teach till Friday and Saturday and expect to see lots more snow!
Mike


Hi Mike - yep, I realized parts of the North Face area were open, and Gunnar has been open for a week or so. But I am kinda hanging on until it all is, because that creates much more variety, especially if there's some natural stuff between the runs to hop over. If it keeps cold and gun powdery and more opens, I may be there Thursday. If not, the following weekend looks pretty sure. Maybe see you up there.

 

Happy New Year ;)

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North Face at 7-Springs is open gortonator, and has been for at least a couple of weeks. All of it is not open, but North Face and Gunnar are both open. More terrain will likely open the end of this week with cold temps here and natural snow on the way.

I was there yesterday and today teaching and the conditions were improving steadily with natural snowfall yesterday afternoon and all day today, and snow guns blowing additional snow. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the mountain is open by the weekend.

I won't be back up to teach till Friday and Saturday and expect to see lots more snow!
Mike


Skied 7 Springs today - lots of fun. Groomers on north side held out very well until about 2.30, and crowds were light indeed. Hopefully the forecast 4-8 inches tonight will come off and teh mountain will be fully open by the weekend.

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More terrain opened at 7-Springs today and more will tomorrow as well. Almost everything will be open as of tomorrow. Unfortunately I'll be teaching all day tomorrow so I likely won't get many free runs to check it out. Hoping to do our regular 4pm clinic and get to ski some of it.

Mike
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