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Just bought first pair of Big skis, Atomic Automatics, nervous about skiing on them

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 

We have all had times where we should just wait a little longer and do a little more research and take more advice, but wth, I bought some awesome skis, great price, 2014 Automatics that were demo skis.


I have not had chance to ski them yet and am getting nervous and excited about skiing on them.  I ski only one to two trips a year in Colorado, mostly Wolf Creek, so Powder is my favorite area to ski, but my nervousness comes from skiing the rest of the mountain, Groomed and such with such big (wide) skis.


I'm 6'6 and weight 220, Have been skiing for 30 yrs, but this is first set bought, Rented way to long...

Bought the 193s    (140/117/129 (@186cm).

Anyone have comments to calm me down,

Going to Summit county in a couple weeks for a 3day trip and would like any positive comments or feedback from anyone..  Thanks.

post #2 of 16

They're skis. They go where you point them as long as it's down the mountain. You're a big dude, so big skis should be fine. They might be a bit more work for a bit less reward if you're on groomers, but you'll get down. I'd just forget about what you're on and ski. You'll do fine.:cool

post #3 of 16

Agree with Marcus.  If you were on the East Coast maybe you'd run into trouble, but as long as it's not icy you'll be fine.  I'm not familiar with those skis, but the main thing is that to have good edge grip on hard snow you'll need higher edge angles than on a narrower ski.


Don't worry, be happy!

post #4 of 16

The daily ski of choice this year for several members of my family is the Praxis GPO. It is very similar in dimensions to the Automatic, though with a different rocker profile. Bottom line, that ski fits my definition of an all-around ski pretty well. Should be peachy on any groomer not solid ice, and surfy enough to make for fun in soft snow off piste. At 220 pound, I would not even think of this as an especially big/wide ski.


If you are used to narrower skis, do a few mellow runs and listen to what the Automatics have to tell you. Depending on how your are used to skiing, you may want to sort of settle in the middle and think about driving through your toes rather than your tips. But if you just play around with an open mind, I suspect you'l find the skis to be very friendly as all-around skis.

post #5 of 16

The 193 Auto is very easy to ski. I bought a pair last year and only used them a few powder days, but can tell you if you are a solid intermediate plus skier, you will like them.  As Spindrift said, just start out slow and see where they take you.  Now I am assuming you have a groomer ski too if there is no fresh/soft snow for you to use the Autos.  And have a fun trip.

Edited by liv2 ski - 12/31/13 at 2:20pm
post #6 of 16

Even without a second pair - yeah, a ski like the Automatic or GPO is not the ultimate technical groomer ski. But they cover a crazy wide range of snow and conditions (OK, I'm admittedly basing this on my use of the GPO + what I have heard about the Automatic) ...I'd be more than happy to zip around on-piste &/or off-piste in CO on skis like these... Definitely in my "one pair in the ski bag" zone for a travel ski...

post #7 of 16

Go ski on them - keep the demo bindings on for now so if they suck, you can trade them for something else - if OK, put some real bindings on:


Someone I ski with goes everywhere with a bigger ski than that (volkl kuro); you will adapt with time.

post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Demo bindings on. Any suggestion about decent binding. Thanks
post #9 of 16

I skied on the 186 AA all last year (I'm 5'10" and weigh 170).  Assuming that the 193 skis the same, I wouldn't worry about the dimensions or having a big ski.  On groomers, the AAs carve nicely.  I was happy with mine in the soft bumps, trees, and especially happy when condition got a little dicy, like on steep cruddy slopes.  Powder days were a hoot on these skis, and you will love them I big open bowls where you can open up the speed.  Not as much fun on icy or hard bumps. 


Best thing to do is forget that you have on big skis.  Sometimes the head gets in the way of the skis.  Trust the ski

post #10 of 16

I'm 5" shorter than you and weigh what you do.


These are my daily Wolf Creek ski in a 189, and I commonly take them to other places. Basically, if there is reasonably soft off-piste snow anywhere, I am clicked into these.


A 193 Automatic seems to be the right size for you.


A 117 waist ski may be overkill for taking trips, as it will be hard to actually catch the powder day, but you get a lot of versatility in a ski like this as long as you are willing to give up precision on the groom. For me, that's an easy trade.

post #11 of 16
Originally Posted by stevescho View Post

Go ski on them - keep the demo bindings on for now so if they suck, you can trade them for something else - if OK, put some real bindings on:


While some demo setups are better than others, I wouldn't be in any rush to pay the $$$ to swap out the bindings. They weigh a little more and they can develop more slop over time, but I wouldn't really worry about it until they got sloppy.


The other nice thing that you can do with demo bindings is use them as a poor man's marker schizo and experiment with moving the bindings off the centerline. I've done so with every demo mount I've had and usually find I have a preference for either forward or back from the standard mount.  But of course, this requires some basic knowledge of how to tech a binding and verify forward pressure.


Generally moving a mount forward 1-2 CM on a powder ski makes it smear better- good for tight trees, while moving it back helps the ski float (and can also help edge grip on harder snow).

post #12 of 16

The Powder are a Freeskier Magazine Editor's Choice, Poweder Skiers Choice, Ski Magazine Gold Winner, and have acquired many more accolades. I'm sure you'll enjoy them a lot once you hit the slopes.

post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks, can't wait to use them. Waited years to buy and finally coughed up some bucks. Skied some vokyls similar a couple trips ago and enjoyed them.
post #14 of 16

I bought these skis last year without having skied them... I bought them in a 193 and am 6'2" and sit somewhere around 200 lbs.  These skis are awesome, handle groomers just fine, charge hard, stable and fast.  I have only been skiing again for 2 years (I skied as a kid but hadn't been up in like 15 years prior to January 2012), this is my 3rd season, and I had never been on a fat ski either.  I have almost no problems on these things.  The only setbacks I've had with them is when the snow has no give - hard crusty ice blocks - these skis still want to GO when you don't want them to, and it can be a task to keep them from doing such. But, that's not what they are made for... However, if the snow softens just a tad, they handle crud like a champ.  I've skied these all year in pretty iffy conditions, have had a blast doing so, and have only decided to demo other skis after I ended up in an ice field after my first run at Schweitzer last week.  


Bottom line: Don't be nervous.

post #15 of 16

The Auto's rip anywhere on the mountain.  I love mine in 12" of powder and on hardpack groomers.  It is one awesome ski.  I am only 5'6" and weigh 165 and ski the 179, it is a perfect fit for me.

post #16 of 16
Thread Starter 
They are great in powder. Loved them.
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