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post #181 of 187
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Without the goggle strap, the plastic-on-plastic mount wiggles.  With the strap in place, the camera is seated firmly with no wiggle since the strap is compressed when the parts snap together (it take a little force).  The strap buffers the plastic-on-plastic.   The goggle strap won't move while you are skiing. Regardless, GoPro is the industry standard and it would be difficult to have a similar mount for it.

 

 

But now all the "cool kids" are wearing the goggle strap under the helmet in the trauma parks..

 

post #182 of 187

I want a sports video camera that is basically a sticker with a camera lens in it.  As low profile as possible, will stick to anything or anywhere.  You could have the lens stick to wherever, then run a wire to a mobile device to power the camera. 

post #183 of 187

Time for google goggle. and if they can come up with a car that can drive itself, maybe skis that ski themselves next. 50 pages arguing about whether it was skier a or skier b's fault will be a thing of the past.

 

All this stuff about Shumacher's Go Pro is rampant sensationalism, at least so far. They say ENSA is testing helmets with go pro mounts--but the articles don't say what the results were. And unless the helmet cracked through the mount it would be hard to blame the mount. We all know--at least I hope we all know--that recreational ski helmets are slightly better than nothing. Compare the helmet that Shumacher wore driving with the one he wore skiing. Bottom line--if your head hits a rock, even if you were standing still and just fell, whether or not you are wearing a helmet you have a good chance of having a serious or even fatal head injury. The likelihood is that we will never hear any actual scientific evidence or detailed, accurate description re the condition of his helmet and the precise nature of his head injury unless a suit is filed and goes to court. And if a suit is settled out of court, even if the mount is determined to be at fault, which I doubt, there will probably be a gag order and we'll never know.

post #184 of 187
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Time for google goggle. and if they can come up with a car that can drive itself, maybe skis that ski themselves next. 50 pages arguing about whether it was skier a or skier b's fault will be a thing of the past.

 

All this stuff about Shumacher's Go Pro is rampant sensationalism, at least so far. They say ENSA is testing helmets with go pro mounts--but the articles don't say what the results were. And unless the helmet cracked through the mount it would be hard to blame the mount. We all know--at least I hope we all know--that recreational ski helmets are slightly better than nothing. Compare the helmet that Shumacher wore driving with the one he wore skiing. Bottom line--if your head hits a rock, even if you were standing still and just fell, whether or not you are wearing a helmet you have a good chance of having a serious or even fatal head injury. The likelihood is that we will never hear any actual scientific evidence or detailed, accurate description re the condition of his helmet and the precise nature of his head injury unless a suit is filed and goes to court. And if a suit is settled out of court, even if the mount is determined to be at fault, which I doubt, there will probably be a gag order and we'll never know.

I can totally accept the plausibility of an argument that a GoPro mount in someway compromises the ability of a helmet to function as designed but unless it is direct impact at speed to the location of the mount which might have the effective of concentrating an impact into the surface area of the attachment (but no more so than say a pointy rock or tree stump), I'm sceptical that we are talking about failure of helmet materials as a direct result of the mount.  I'd think it more likely that a mount plays a role in changing the way rotational forces get applied to the head and neck as the mount "digs in" (perhaps momentarily before failure).

 

Without data we've no way of knowing what actually happened in this case and I suspect that even footage of the actual incident itself is insufficient to model conclusions from.   What I would expect is that GoPro release more "educational" video of their testing processes to demonstrate that their mounts are "safe" and accordingly manage public perception and some of the noise regarding this case.  Whether they'll do this now or keep their powder dry while the Seattle (or other) ambulance chasers draw up their potential class action suit remains to be seen.

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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Post
 

Without the goggle strap, the plastic-on-plastic mount wiggles.  With the strap in place, the camera is seated firmly with no wiggle since the strap is compressed when the parts snap together (it take a little force).  The strap buffers the plastic-on-plastic.   The goggle strap won't move while you are skiing. Regardless, GoPro is the industry standard and it would be difficult to have a similar mount for it.

 

 

But now all the "cool kids" are wearing the goggle strap under the helmet in the trauma parks..

 

 

Oww. I can't even stand having a pony tail holder under my helmet, let alone the plastic piece at the back of the goggle strap!

post #186 of 187
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Oww. I can't even stand having a pony tail holder under my helmet, let alone the plastic piece at the back of the goggle strap!

 

Sign of getting old. Cool ain't got nothin to do with comfort or safety. 

post #187 of 187
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Oww. I can't even stand having a pony tail holder under my helmet, let alone the plastic piece at the back of the goggle strap!

 

Sign of getting old. Cool ain't got nothin to do with comfort or safety. 


I was apparently born old ;-)

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