John from South Jersey.
Edited by jflaherty - 12/29/13 at 12:50am
John from South Jersey.
Welcome to EpicSki. I grew up skiing the Poconos. Loved Elk.
160 is way too short for you, even if you're just skiing groomed blues.
One thing to decide is whether you want a more dedicated carving ski or more of an all-mountain ski. There are so many good skis in these categories that it's hard to just pick one. K2 makes good skis, but no better than a half dozen other companies so don't wed yourself to that brand. That said, the Amp 80XTI may be just what you're looking for.
Check out these guides by SierraJim to get a good starting point:
Hi kauffee. Thanks for your reply!
I love Elk. My favorite Poconos, I just hate the slow-lifts.
I knew the 160' would draw comments. :-)
I've received a bit of push-back from some, but most people I talk to, including the salesmen at three different locations, did not push the idea of lengthening them. As I sad, I was looking for stability and turning ability. My understanding is that longer basically means faster but also less stable and turns harder. What length would you recommend?
I will look at the Amp 80XTI and the links you sent.
John from South Jersey.
A shorter ski may be easier to turn, however it is LESS stable than a longer ski. At your height and weight, you need a longer ski for more stability when you're at speed. You'll be far more comfortable on a longer ski because of that added stability and you won't lose the ability to turn the ski easily... it will just carve much better. If you don't believe me, demo a ski somewhere around the mid 170s and you'll see.
What's your budget for skis and bindings? (Most of the dedicated carving skis will have system bindings included.)
Kaufkee: Thank you again for your insight. Perhaps you are correct on length.
What I mean is, I'm sure you know what you're talking about...
Budget? I don't know. I guess I was hoping to come in under $600? Those AMP 80XTI do sound promising to me however. I guess I'm not going to get away with $399. :-)
John from South Jersey.
Check out the K2 Richtor 90 Xti.
I think Philpug did a review on it recently.
I'll tag it on the side of this page.
Not to push you into a purchase, but I believe Start Haus has them in stock. You can contact @Start Haus or @Philpug if you decide this is something you want to buy. They treat EpicSki Bears pretty well. But then.....I'm a little bias
Edit: Looks like we posted at the same time.
Its not really a powder ski, more of an all mountain ski that is also happy to go off piste if you're inspired. We've had mostly groomer days here in Tahoe this season. The Richtor 90 has been great for that kind of terrain.
Watch for a "demo" day at one of your ski-resorts or one you would like to go to. Okemo just had one back on the 14th. I went to that one. It is a great way to check out skis. It really helped me feel the difference between a "forgiving" ski (my skiing needs a LOT of forgiveness) and a performance ski that feels really good when I am doing the right things but gets squirrely in a big hurry when I got a little in the back seat. You can also check out different lengths and widths.
As some others have said, don't start out with your mind set on a brand. Ski some different skis and see how they feel for you. If you can afford it and can't find a demo day you can always hit the demo shack at the slopes and rent what you want to try. Talk to people on lifts and ask them about their skis (people who aren't renting). Once you've found something you like you can start poking around the interwebs and find a demo/used pair for considerably less that retail. I've got a pair of demos enroute to me for 1/2 retail. If I would have moved quicker on another opportunity I could have save $50 over that.
I live in Utah and have the luxury of skiing enough to own a quiver of different skis for different conditions. Between the dry winters we've had recently and my involvement with the local USSA alpine races, I've rediscovered the fun of carving groomers. I'm skiing on the discontinued Rossignol 80Ti in a 170cm length (I'm 5'8" and 160lbs) and the ski is phenomenal - very solid and aggressive. Many local ski instructors ski on that ski, as well as its replacement, the Rossi Avenger 82 Ti. Both skis come with integrated bindings and can be found online used at good prices. Definitely a great frontside charging ski, but not for off piste...too stiff, too narrow. Just my two cents -- good luck selecting a ski to meet your needs.
This is the first pair I've bought using the web (in this case eBay). But other than my first skis the other three pairs I've purchased have been used and I haven't had any issues. My next two paris were through friends of my ski nut daughter. They are both still in service.
Most interweb used-ski highways lead to eBay or places near there as far as I can tell. I googled the skis I was interested in with "demo" and "used" following the model. Liquidationsports.com and levelninesports.com seem to have a decent selection, but I found mine directly on eBay from a user "demo_skis". Liquidation is an "eBay Store", I think, whatever that is. I was going to purchase from them but the ones I wanted were mislabeled. They were upfront about it and offered other sizes for the same price but I wanted what I wanted so went back to searching. My daughter likes Levelnine but they didn't have what I was looking for at a demo price.
Probably too early in the season now, but towards the end of the ski season it might be worthwhile to ask the demo tent or shack what they want to let you take the skis with you rather than dry and wax them again.
Another thing to consider, if you can wait, is to attend a ski show. In the east they have one in, IIRC, November or thereabouts at the Meadowlands Sports complex. I got my boots once when I happened to be in Denver while there was a ski sale at the Denver convention center. I got boots (and socks and such) for as low a price as I could find anywhere, including the net. To me the advantage of finding the best possible price (within reason) is that it allows me to go for something a little better than I would have gone for at retail. It isn't that I spend less $$ overall, just that now, for example, I have better boots than I would otherwise own. And it leaves you a few $ to go get them fitted.
Also, if you got to the larger ski areas (Summit County, CO being an example - Frisco, Breckenridge, Dillon, Silverthorne, etc) most sports shops (and there are MANY) will have a consignment section. I know people who stock their quiver that way - add a pair of fatties for powder days, well worn but OK and cheap for early and late season rocks, etc. For the price of one rental they wind up with a pair of skis they use for certain conditions - or sell to friends and acquaintances who get the bug. The yutes are forever trading and buying and selling bits and pieces of equipment to one another. They're like pushers ;)
I love skiing but not that much ;)
jflaherty -- here's another option that might be perfect for you...the Atomic Blackeye. It includes a tip rocker for more versatility, too. No, I don't rep any of these skis I've written about or Level Nine Sports. Again, good luck.
$499 with bindings at Level Nine Sports -- http://www.levelninesports.com/Atomic-2014-Blackeye-Skis-Wxto-12-Bindings