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Changing from snowboarding to skiing, this is the result (2012 Ski Edit) Criticism appreciated

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 

I changed from snowboarding to skiing last year and over much time and labour, i made an edit.

 

This is my second one and I'm still quite new to editing, so helpful criticism is appreciated! Hope you all enjoy!

 

Cheers,

    Jordan

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F46hOGf3L1E

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Edited by sibhusky - 12/28/13 at 6:34am
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 

Bump

 

Would like to see some constructive criticism guys!

 

Cheers,

    Jordan

post #4 of 8
I'll respond because no one else has, but understand these videos bore me.

1 - What is your GOAL with the video? Showcase the resort? Your skiing? Fun with friends? I ask because it's not clear. That's frequently the problem with these things. People are dying to use the footage, but they just sort of glue everything together and add music.

2 - Overall, it's too long to sit through when it's just a string of things without a story. I stopped watching at around three minutes. There were some nice segments in the powder which worked better than the earlier, choppy, beginning with lots of short bits glued together with black screen. If you'd had more of those, and less crashing, and music that was more suited to the action, I'd have hung on longer.

Really if you want cinematography advice, you'd do better on a forum specifically for that. Here we want to do movement analysis, resort or condition documentation, something that concentrates on SKIING. We are not the place, generally, to watch something to evaluate your edit room technique. Which is what you asked for. If we notice the technique of your filming it's generally because it got in the way of presenting your subject matter.
post #5 of 8
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Although I understand and appreciate your criticism, all I heard was things I did wrong, and what I actually want is HOW and WHAT to do to get rid of such mistakes.

 Also, as said in the title of the video, this was not a story, no real meaning to it, but it was a season edit, showing a memoir of the 2012-2013 season.

 

If you know of any ski videos that have meaning other than showcasing their years, tricks, or such, please post some, as I need reference to see what you mean by having meaning to the video. 

 

 Cheers,

    Jordan

post #6 of 8
Like I said, I find most videos boring because they are like snapshots jumbled in an envelope. The fact that that is what everyone else does doesn't make them interesting. People who make albums of their trip telling a story create more successful viewing experiences for their friends. And I did tell you the longer stuff worked better than the quick chops.

So, you say it's a memoir. Decide what you want to showcase. You may have to use a different order than the actual order of events. Successful ski films tell not just the run going town the mountain, but the journey to get there, scenes of the vistas, discussion of feelings, prep, etc.

Create a story board. Then find the footage to tell the story. There's a million videos out there with a bunch of stuff just jammed together.

Just the fact that I'm the only one responding to you should speak volumes. There's 40000 members here, all interested in SKIING. They're interested in talking technique (which you didn't ask for discussion of), resorts (which you didn't showcase), outstanding scenery, blasting through conditions they can only dream of, etc. What is your "hook"? People here talk ski technique, not video fades. They might talk that stuff if they get hooked into the video because of the topic. Which is elusive at the moment.
post #7 of 8
And no, I didn't use to be a teacher....

But further thoughts. Why don't you make the story ABOUT the change from snowboarding to skiing? Start with snowboarding, progress through the ski learning period, showing your progression in abilities. Just a thought. Add commentary or word frames to explain things if needed.
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 

Fair enough and thank you for your help.

 

That snowboarding/skiing idea is actually quite inspiring and exactly what i was looking for! Thank you!

 

 Cheers,

    Jordan

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