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Jumping and riding switch help needed.

post #1 of 10
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Jumping:

I've read the whole "put your weight forward, arms out front" stuff but I'm still having a hard time getting my weight right.

1. The man-made jumps always have a pop at the tip which throws my balance completely off, weight forward or not. A lot of times I have my weight *too* far forward and have even crashed staring straight at the ground. Does this just require more jumping? Over and over and over and over to get used to the amount of pop and to compensate for it?

2. How do you know what speed you should take a jump at? I've done it too slow and landed on the flat before as well as taken it too fast and landed on the flat *after* the runout. I've found that you can't just start at the "official" starting point (the area where everyone else gathers to begin) and straight line it down because then you go too fast.

Skiing Switch:

My legs are short and stocky and my flexibility is not good. Good switch skiers have their legs together and scissored, and they scissor it from side to side depending on which direction they want to turn.

Well, I can't scissor my legs so narrowly, even when just going straight. I can do it on one side but I'm not flexible enough to do it on the other.

And when I scissor while riding switch, I end up carving hard into the direction that I scissor and it brings me back around again.

Right now when I go backwards I just have a wide square stance. I make little direction changes by applying more weight to one side than the other.

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post #2 of 10

Stretch, ski switch lots, and hit lots of jumps. I found it helpful to practice popping while switch, even while not going off a jump. Just be going switch and try to pop, or jump up. 

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Stretch, ski switch lots, and hit lots of jumps. I found it helpful to practice popping while switch, even while not going off a jump. Just be going switch and try to pop, or jump up. 


Awesome, thanks. I never thought to do that! I'm sure that popping will add a bit of instability and falls at first, but this will make for better skiing in the future.

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post #4 of 10

Also, I know you said you can't really scissor your legs, but you might still be able to use your edges to turn while switch. Thats what scissoring really does, it allows you to get both skis on the same edge to turn, so try that. Also make sure your pants aren't too tight- I was having trouble getting grabs and skiing switch until I realized my pants were constricting my full range of movement. 

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Originally Posted by fuzzybabybunny View Post

Jumping:

I've read the whole "put your weight forward, arms out front" stuff but I'm still having a hard time getting my weight right.

1. The man-made jumps always have a pop at the tip which throws my balance completely off, weight forward or not. A lot of times I have my weight *too* far forward and have even crashed staring straight at the ground. Does this just require more jumping? Over and over and over and over to get used to the amount of pop and to compensate for it?

2. How do you know what speed you should take a jump at? I've done it too slow and landed on the flat before as well as taken it too fast and landed on the flat *after* the runout. I've found that you can't just start at the "official" starting point (the area where everyone else gathers to begin) and straight line it down because then you go too fast.

Skiing Switch:

My legs are short and stocky and my flexibility is not good. Good switch skiers have their legs together and scissored, and they scissor it from side to side depending on which direction they want to turn.

Well, I can't scissor my legs so narrowly, even when just going straight. I can do it on one side but I'm not flexible enough to do it on the other.

And when I scissor while riding switch, I end up carving hard into the direction that I scissor and it brings me back around again.

Right now when I go backwards I just have a wide square stance. I make little direction changes by applying more weight to one side than the other.

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with out video of you jumping I have no idea...

 

 

ski switch  requires no more flexibiltythan forward. when going backwards you should be standing moving towards the tail of you outside ski.  most people are not good at skiing forwards and the issues clearly show up when riding backwards.

post #6 of 10

I also don't really see how scissoring/staggering is a flexibility issue, if you can walk, you should be able to do it. If you don't scissor and look over your outside shoulder speed control will be really hard.

 

Jumps - jump more. Speed is not an exact science, your weight, wax etc will make a difference, but check out what other people are doing and copy, then adjust for the next hit if you knuckled or went too deep. 

post #7 of 10

Yeah for speed while jumping it is a totally normal and acceptable practice to just ask someone how much speed to take at it. Also if your clearing the landing I'm guessing you'r not doing very large jumps (which you shouldn't be) but when the jumps get larger it becomes much harder to do that especially on the first one. Also don't assume straight lining is always too fast. Right know some of Copper's jumps are poorly built and you have to skate and tuck into the first jump just to clear it. 

 

Bottom line if you don't know ask coming up short when you get to larger jumps is a really good way to get hurt and for the love of god if you crash get out of the way as soon as possible. It's not just a courtesy thing, it's self preservation some people are retarded and won't wait to see if you clear before going. Not to mention I have seen people go regardless even when there where skis crossed in the snow on the jump.   

post #8 of 10
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Thanks for the tips guys. I just spent like 4 hours on the super long green slopes of Breckenridge and all I did was ride switch the entire time. Right now I can carve with skis set somewhat apart, but I'm still having trouble really scissoring.

I'm also trying to find a "baby park", somewhere with lots of smaller jumps one after the other but also serviced by a nice express lift.

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Thanks for the tips guys. I just spent like 4 hours on the super long green slopes of Breckenridge and all I did was ride switch the entire time. Right now I can carve with skis set somewhat apart, but I'm still having trouble really scissoring.



I'm also trying to find a "baby park", somewhere with lots of smaller jumps one after the other but also serviced by a nice express lift.



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There's a park on Peak 9 that's serviced by the beaver run super chair. Ther also used to be a small pipe but not sure if they ahve that any more
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Originally Posted by fuzzybabybunny View Post

Thanks for the tips guys. I just spent like 4 hours on the super long green slopes of Breckenridge and all I did was ride switch the entire time. Right now I can carve with skis set somewhat apart, but I'm still having trouble really scissoring.



I'm also trying to find a "baby park", somewhere with lots of smaller jumps one after the other but also serviced by a nice express lift.



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There's a park on Peak 9 that's serviced by the beaver run super chair. Ther also used to be a small pipe but not sure if they ahve that any more

Gahhh I went to that park yesterday. It's perfect - 3 small jumps (not just bumps) where I can practice being centered in the air.

But the lift to get back up is horrible! The Beaver Run Superchair overshoots it by quite a bit. Hard to get much practice in.

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