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Heavenly, Steamboat or Jackson Hole - Help Me Decide

Poll Results: Where should I go?

 
  • 0% (0)
    Heavenly
  • 62% (5)
    Steamboat
  • 37% (3)
    Jackson Hole
8 Total Votes  
post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Planning a group trip for early March for 4 or 5 nights for some east coast snowboarders and looking into the following places: Tahoe (Heavenly), Steamboat or Jackson Hole.

 

Riders are intermediate to advanced. Advanced riders (including me) love the trees and powder. Nightlife would be a plus but not necessary.

 

Same group has been to Breckenridge, Vail, Park City, Canyons and Solitude in the past 2 seasons and had a great time at each resort. Vail being the favorite of that group.

 

Heavenly was going to be the choice until we noticed how little snow they've received and how bad the future forecast is. Now we are a bit confused and not sure where to go. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

post #2 of 13
March is a ways out there to be chosing based on current snow conditions. But if you choose Jackson Hole or Steamboat, you'll not have to second guess. I'm headed to Tahoe in 5 weeks, so they are destined to have weak snow (at least until the day I leave).
post #3 of 13

My choice would be JH, but if your group's past favorite was Vail, then I'm going to suggest Steamboat.

 

I'd throw Heavenly out of the running altogether...especially for boarders!

 

Steamboat will make your group happy.

post #4 of 13

None of these are great choices for early March.  Steamboat and Jackson have predominant sunny exposures and are best skied in the colder low sun months.  Steamboat is not all that steep so grooming can mitigate the issues more than at JH, but there are lot of places where packed powder is routine in early March, so why ski likely spring conditions before you have to?

 

Yes Steamboat and Jackson place get much more snow than most, but the powder days are still maybe 15-20% and not predictable in advance.  They also tend to come in batches so 40% of weeks will have NO powder days.  These are the weeks you want plenty of north exposure in March. 

 

All of this said, there is no way I would book Heavenly this season until AFTER we see enough Sierra dumps to open everything. 

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I'd throw Heavenly out of the running altogether...especially for boarders! 

Heavenly has A LOT of tedious catwalks and traverses.  So yes, for an all snowboard group I'd be skeptical for that reason too. 

 

Therefore I don't vote in this poll because in early March you can do better.  Let's see, in no particular order... Copper, Winter Park, Aspen, Telluride, Taos, all 4 of the Cottonwood areas in Utah, Mammoth, Mt. Bachelor, Whistler, Banff........

post #5 of 13
1/2 of the borders I saw at Steamboat carry poles. That should give you an idea about the terrain!

Even for a skier, it's often tideous to get around, especially after a few inches had fallen...

I can't help but to feel the 'Boat is an area best done on telemark skis! (Saw a lot of really good ones too)
post #6 of 13
Steamboat has lower angle terrain, but I've not see the implicit number of flat catwalks that nyc's post would imply. Or the portion of pole wielding boarders.

Spring skiing at the boat can be really great. It can be frozen coral reef as we'll, but that can happen anywhere. And it can dump there as we'll.

Given you loved Vail I'd recommend Steamboat. And intermediate and Jackson are not the best mix.

Mike
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post

1/2 of the borders I saw at Steamboat carry poles. That should give you an idea about the terrain!

Even for a skier, it's often tideous to get around, especially after a few inches had fallen...

I can't help but to feel the 'Boat is an area best done on telemark skis! (Saw a lot of really good ones too)

 

 

I have no idea what this post is.... but they are misinformed. 

 

Rarely will you see a snowboarder with poles here. Where you will see it is where a snowboarder has a split board and is headed OB or on a deep day where a fall in the trees could land you waist deep.  Catwalks?  they are fine and since you really are rarely on one, I don't see the issue.  Keep in mind there are sections where its gentle but fun blues (with killer trees in the same area BTW) and you will see snowboarders struggling there but that's the intermediate terrain so my guess is at_NYC spent most of his/her time there. I have skied many knee deep plus days with no issues getting around so again, my thought is if this skier spent most of their time in the sunshine area or the beginners zone, it can be slow going on a deep day for that kind of terrain (although again, there are some really fun sections right in Sunshine off piste;  BTW, you can ski down to Morningside from Sunshine on some pretty steep tree sections. Right off the Rendezvous Lodge is the "land of the little people". Wrist band and broadway trees, (accessed off a green cat track btw) is steep with drops and off axis terrain in very tight evergreens, I do not recommend anyone less than advanced with prior tree skiing experience with the ability to make tight rapid turns to ski this though) 

 

There are plenty of areas that most tourist don't go that offer more than challenging and fun terrain that is in the 25-40* with lots of tree skiing that is the best in North America ( I spent most of yesterday in areas that were empty holding fantastic snow that were plenty steep). The town has the most olympians living it and regularly churns out world class skiers so that should give you an idea about the terrain here.  

 

Regarding snowfall, don't believe or listen to the statisticians, we get a lot of snow in March, but due to the way steamboat reports it, you can't go by the "stats" also, every winter is different so you really need to look at the trends and then look at some of the long range flows to get a vague idea. We are famous for our oragraphic storms where a 3" storm just spins and pukes here.  It's December 28 and we have a 52" base at the summit.  The coverage is excellent; far ahead of pace (its not "average") 

 

There are no sure bets or ways to predict what may or may not come in.  


Edited by Finndog - 12/28/13 at 8:32am
post #8 of 13

Yeah, not sure what NYC is talking about....'Boat isn't an exceptionally steep mountain, but you don't have problems getting around on the deepest days like you do at certain mountains I've visited. 

The pitch is consistent with minimal flats and traversing. The only area I would avoid is the runout from the East Face, but that's a tiny area of the mountain. 

Right now OP, I'd rank it 1-Steamboat, 2- Jackson, 3- Heavenly. Was at Steamboat last week and the skiing is superb. 

post #9 of 13
I'm not a huge fan of Steamboat, but I am another to chime in and say I didn't find a lot of traverse BS there, just a lot of funnel runs in all those gulches. A ton of intermediate terrain. Less crowded than summit and Vail, but the place gets eaten alive on a powder day.

Wolf Creek is the mountain where boarders need a pole on a pow day if they venture into Alberta.
post #10 of 13

sitting in Tahoe-I wouldn't book here, huge gamble....very little snow. It could snow but we are starting with so little it will take a lot to fill stuff in. Also if you're staying in Tahoe explore, there's lots of other areas that you may like much more than Heavenly.

 

I've had some pretty bad skiing at Steamboat in March, pure manky sludge when most of Colorado was much better off. Yeah it can be good but odds are in March it will be better somewhere (anywhere) else in the state.

post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by at_nyc View Post

1/2 of the borders I saw at Steamboat carry poles. That should give you an idea about the terrain!

Even for a skier, it's often tideous to get around, especially after a few inches had fallen...

I can't help but to feel the 'Boat is an area best done on telemark skis! (Saw a lot of really good ones too)

You are mistaking Steamboat for Vail:rolleyes

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by Nick Arcuri View Post
 

Planning a group trip for early March for 4 or 5 nights for some east coast snowboarders and looking into the following places: Tahoe (Heavenly), Steamboat or Jackson Hole.

 

Riders are intermediate to advanced. Advanced riders (including me) love the trees and powder. Nightlife would be a plus but not necessary.

 

Same group has been to Breckenridge, Vail, Park City, Canyons and Solitude in the past 2 seasons and had a great time at each resort. Vail being the favorite of that group.

 

Heavenly was going to be the choice until we noticed how little snow they've received and how bad the future forecast is. Now we are a bit confused and not sure where to go. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

There was one 30 inch dump in California what seemed like a month ago, nothing before, and a trace since.  Lowest calender year precipitation ever....lower than 1976.  At this rate, you'd better bring your golf clubs if you come out here.  That said, there is some limited groomer-only skiing and decent park features which are holding up - the base is not absolutely pathetic. yet.

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by stevescho View Post
 

There was one 30 inch dump in California what seemed like a month ago, nothing before, and a trace since.  Lowest calender year precipitation ever....lower than 1976.  At this rate, you'd better bring your golf clubs if you come out here.  That said, there is some limited groomer-only skiing and decent park features which are holding up - the base is not absolutely pathetic. yet.

See, I told ya'll so back in post 2.  I have the touch/curse.  It'll start snowing the day I leave Tahoe (2/8/14).

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