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post #31 of 37
Hi y'all. Joining in on this thread as I have similar specs (5'2", 110 lbs) and am looking for an intermediate adv ski. I've been eyeing the 2014 Blizzard 8.0s and just demoed them in 158 last weekend at Squaw and Alpine. Absolutely loved them. Aggressive ski that picks up speed on groomers but also good in moguls and appeared to handle some powder well. Also demoed 152 2014 blizzard black pearls a few weeks ago and really liked them but I found them a bit soft, a tad not fast enough and also too short. Wanted to try the 159 but demo shop was out. Alternatively wanted to try the sambas, but shop also did not have those.

Overall, I'm leaning towards a slightly more aggressive ski than the BP and the viva 8.0 seem to be a great fit. I mostly prefer piste (grew up skiing VT) and am looking for an int adv all-mountain ski for out west. Love to get speed, and also enjoy the occasional mogul run.

Thoughts on whether the viva 8.0/ would be a good fit for me based on specs and above preferences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Btw, @Estée - how did 2012 Elan Pure Fushions work out?
post #32 of 37
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Originally Posted by Dani1892 View Post

Hi y'all. Joining in on this thread as I have similar specs (5'2", 110 lbs) and am looking for an intermediate adv ski. I've been eyeing the 2014 Blizzard 8.0s and just demoed them in 158 last weekend at Squaw and Alpine. Absolutely loved them. Aggressive ski that picks up speed on groomers but also good in moguls and appeared to handle some powder well. Also demoed 152 2014 blizzard black pearls a few weeks ago and really liked them but I found them a bit soft, a tad not fast enough and also too short. Wanted to try the 159 but demo shop was out. Alternatively wanted to try the sambas, but shop also did not have those.

Overall, I'm leaning towards a slightly more aggressive ski than the BP and the viva 8.0 seem to be a great fit. I mostly prefer piste (grew up skiing VT) and am looking for an int adv all-mountain ski for out west. Love to get speed, and also enjoy the occasional mogul run.

Thoughts on whether the viva 8.0/ would be a good fit for me based on specs and above preferences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Btw, @Estée - how did 2012 Elan Pure Fushions work out?

Welcome to EpicSki!  Not surprised you found the 152 BPs too short.  I'm a couple inches shorter and a few pounds heavier and ski the 159.  Have you ever considered a Nordica or Volkl?

 

Paging @Trekchick for advice.  Especially since you ski in north Tahoe.  Have you ever stopped by the Start Haus?

post #33 of 37
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Originally Posted by Dani1892 View Post

Hi y'all. Joining in on this thread as I have similar specs (5'2", 110 lbs) and am looking for an intermediate adv ski. I've been eyeing the 2014 Blizzard 8.0s and just demoed them in 158 last weekend at Squaw and Alpine. Absolutely loved them. Aggressive ski that picks up speed on groomers but also good in moguls and appeared to handle some powder well. Also demoed 152 2014 blizzard black pearls a few weeks ago and really liked them but I found them a bit soft, a tad not fast enough and also too short. Wanted to try the 159 but demo shop was out. Alternatively wanted to try the sambas, but shop also did not have those.

Overall, I'm leaning towards a slightly more aggressive ski than the BP and the viva 8.0 seem to be a great fit. I mostly prefer piste (grew up skiing VT) and am looking for an int adv all-mountain ski for out west. Love to get speed, and also enjoy the occasional mogul run.

Thoughts on whether the viva 8.0/ would be a good fit for me based on specs and above preferences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Btw, @Estée - how did 2012 Elan Pure Fushions work out?

The Viva 8.0 is a pretty strong ski and may do the trick for you,. 

 

You're pretty light so you are not likely to over bend it, yet it will be there for you when you need it.  I think you're on the right track.  

When you get a minute and want to make a few turns, give me a shout.  I'm usually around. 

post #34 of 37
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Originally Posted by Dani1892 View Post

Hi y'all. Joining in on this thread as I have similar specs (5'2", 110 lbs) and am looking for an intermediate adv ski. I've been eyeing the 2014 Blizzard 8.0s and just demoed them in 158 last weekend at Squaw and Alpine. Absolutely loved them. Aggressive ski that picks up speed on groomers but also good in moguls and appeared to handle some powder well. Also demoed 152 2014 blizzard black pearls a few weeks ago and really liked them but I found them a bit soft, a tad not fast enough and also too short. Wanted to try the 159 but demo shop was out. Alternatively wanted to try the sambas, but shop also did not have those.

Overall, I'm leaning towards a slightly more aggressive ski than the BP and the viva 8.0 seem to be a great fit. I mostly prefer piste (grew up skiing VT) and am looking for an int adv all-mountain ski for out west. Love to get speed, and also enjoy the occasional mogul run.

Thoughts on whether the viva 8.0/ would be a good fit for me based on specs and above preferences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Btw, @Estée - how did 2012 Elan Pure Fushions work out?

The black perals and the bushwaker are the SAME ski just different graphics.. at your weight I'm definitely not surprised that the 152 was too short... On those skis 159 at a minimum but if you really want speed and some more stability the 166 will probably fit the bill..

 

I also suggest that you take a look at the Brahma @ 166 (Thats the shortest it come in), It has the same profile as the bushwaker and of course the black pearl, but its full metal core (stiffens up ski for stability) and has camber underfoot which gives it some play in the bumps..  The Tip and Tail rocker really make it ski like a shorter ski... I would say that it turns similiar to a full camber ski 2 sizes shorter..

post #35 of 37

Wow - thanks to all for the quick and comprehensive feedback!  Definitely solidifies my gut to be skiing at least 159s (the demo guy was trying to put me on 152s or shorter).  And great feedback/check on my thoughts re Viva 8.0s.  I was really happy skiing on them and am trying to find a pair still out there and for a great deal.  Trying to get another trip in this weekend -- if I can't get a good deal on the Viva's, may look into the Bushwhackers or Brahmas.  My gut says 166s may be stretching it for me, but worth taking them out for a spin!

 

@marznc - grew up skiing Volkls, actually.  Absolutely loved them and they were my first shaped ski (unfortunately it's been too long and have no idea what model).  Surprisingly, haven't skied Volkls in recent years. Haven't seen a great selection in the demo shops I've been in, but also heard such great things about Blizzards that I've been focusing on those.  Any Volkls you'd recommend that would be similar to the Viva 8.0 or Black Pearl/Samba?

 

Haven't been to Start Haus, but definitely will add to my short list to check out!

 

Btw, speaking of deals, does anyone know the difference between MSRP and MAP (manufacturer's asking price)?  Apparently the MSRP for all the Blizzards is greater than the MAP (not by an insignificant difference -- usually ~$200).  Result is less of a discount now because the % is taken off the MSRP even though Blizzard is selling the skis on their website for a lower amount.  

 

Thanks again!!

post #36 of 37
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Originally Posted by Dani1892 View Post

Hi y'all. Joining in on this thread as I have similar specs (5'2", 110 lbs) and am looking for an intermediate adv ski. I've been eyeing the 2014 Blizzard 8.0s and just demoed them in 158 last weekend at Squaw and Alpine. Absolutely loved them. Aggressive ski that picks up speed on groomers but also good in moguls and appeared to handle some powder well. Also demoed 152 2014 blizzard black pearls a few weeks ago and really liked them but I found them a bit soft, a tad not fast enough and also too short. Wanted to try the 159 but demo shop was out. Alternatively wanted to try the sambas, but shop also did not have those.

Overall, I'm leaning towards a slightly more aggressive ski than the BP and the viva 8.0 seem to be a great fit. I mostly prefer piste (grew up skiing VT) and am looking for an int adv all-mountain ski for out west. Love to get speed, and also enjoy the occasional mogul run.

Thoughts on whether the viva 8.0/ would be a good fit for me based on specs and above preferences would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Btw, @Estée - how did 2012 Elan Pure Fushions work out?
 
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Wow - thanks to all for the quick and comprehensive feedback!  Definitely solidifies my gut to be skiing at least 159s (the demo guy was trying to put me on 152s or shorter).  And great feedback/check on my thoughts re Viva 8.0s.  I was really happy skiing on them and am trying to find a pair still out there and for a great deal.  Trying to get another trip in this weekend -- if I can't get a good deal on the Viva's, may look into the Bushwhackers or Brahmas.  My gut says 166s may be stretching it for me, but worth taking them out for a spin!

 

@marznc - grew up skiing Volkls, actually.  Absolutely loved them and they were my first shaped ski (unfortunately it's been too long and have no idea what model).  Surprisingly, haven't skied Volkls in recent years. Haven't seen a great selection in the demo shops I've been in, but also heard such great things about Blizzards that I've been focusing on those.  Any Volkls you'd recommend that would be similar to the Viva 8.0 or Black Pearl/Samba?

 

Haven't been to Start Haus, but definitely will add to my short list to check out!

 

Btw, speaking of deals, does anyone know the difference between MSRP and MAP (manufacturer's asking price)?  Apparently the MSRP for all the Blizzards is greater than the MAP (not by an insignificant difference -- usually ~$200).  Result is less of a discount now because the % is taken off the MSRP even though Blizzard is selling the skis on their website for a lower amount.  

 

Thanks again!!

My skiing style and size works much better with a Rossi or Blizzard model.  I ski mostly in the Mid-Atlantic and out west. Haven't really liked any Volkl and usually check one out during a free demo day.  So I'm not going to give any suggestions about Volkl models.  It's fair to say that few women who really like Volkls and also really like BPs, and vice-versa.  Both have plenty of women who love them.

 

Here's a relevant thread for your situation:

http://www.epicski.com/t/126723/advanced-female-skier-looking-for-a-new-pair-of-skis

 

Perhaps "intermediate adv" is not the best description for what will make you happy.  You don't sound like the intermediate skiers I know, you sound more like an advanced skier who learned in VT and then didn't ski for a number of years.  If the demo guy was trying to put you the shorter length, that's probably because thinking "intermediate" and not "advanced."  What did you say about which trails and terrain you like at a nearby mountain?

post #37 of 37

Another option to consider... I recently put a progressing Level 6-7 skier on a Volkl Yumi, which is a versatile wood core ski with the edge hold and performance you expect from Volkl.  She was previously on a 2010 K2 Lotta Luv.  So far, she really likes the new Yumi.  This ski is based on the Kenja design but narrower and no metal so it doesn't have the messed up tail that you find in many of the Volkl frontside skis nor the expert skill to mange as with the Kenja.  With your petite size, I would recommend to start with the 154cm and then go up to the 161, if you feel it isn't stable enough.  The skier I reference above is 5'6" and 145lbs and skis the 161cm.  I think the Start Haus in Truckee has a 154cm in stock at a crazy low price... at least they had it.  Based on your petite size, I would stay away from any advanced men's skis... they are likely too long and too stiff for your size.  Once women's skis became prevalent years ago, the manufactures stopped making all but women's and lower level skis in sizes under 160cm.  I know a number of light weight men that ski women's advanced/expert skis because of this approach.

 

As a woman and a heavier technical skier, I generally struggle to follow any of the true written guidance on a ski.  Moreover, I can rarely demo the skis I consider.  Thus, I have learned to trust my local shop and have almost always bought skis that I have never sampled on snow.  A good hardgoods ski specialist gets to truly experience most the skis they sell and can then recommend skis effectively to their customers, especially when they get to know the customer's skiing style.  There are a number of folks like this on the Epic Ski boards, but the challenge is they don't "know" your skiing but rather are inferring your skiing style from your written description, just as I am today.  Such online conversations are certainly helpful, and many of the posts here at Epic Ski have permitted me to make better decisions.  Personally though, I still rely extensively on my local shop (Ski Center DC, Northern Ski Works VT, and now Start Haus CA) and so far have not been disappointed.  I am a knowledgeable skier yet still appreciate the advisement of those who think about ski selection for a living.  This in combination with my own knowledge aids in selection of the right skis for me and friends alike, as in the Yumi example above  Thus, I recommend taking what you learn from conversations here or elsewhere and work through the final selection with someone professional, who personally knows your skiing to guide the final purchase.  There are lots of great ski options out there, and you will likely be happy and confident on many different models, even if you never have the opportunity to ski them prior to the purchase. 

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