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post #31 of 38
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Originally Posted by WasatchReport View Post
 

Any update?  I've been following this thread and my money is on the bases not being true.  Until the bases, the edges, and the bindings are all checked, then all other discussions are academic.  So many skis come from the factory with less than ideally flat bases, that I'll bet that the problem.  If that's not the problem, then we move on to how to ski those skis.  Good luck, Scottyja.

 

T. - wasatchreport.com

 

Actually, some good progress! In short, I think the issue was a combination of boots and form. I should have mentioned earlier, but I had the skis tuned right after I bought them. But I took them back to the shop and explained the situation. The guy checked the tune and the bindings but couldn't find anything specific, so he had me put my boots on and right off the bat noticed I wasn't tightening my boots enough. I have a new pair of Daebello Kryptons, the kind with 3 buckles - while the front of my foot was well supported, the heel had way too much wiggle room. We ended up trying a different insole that supported the heel better. His theory was when initiating a turn, the outside foot would be on edge, but the heel would slip and cause my ankle to roll, essentially taking it off the edge and slipping (I think basically what freeski919 called tail-pushing). He suspected I was doing the same on my old skis, they just aren't as aggressive a ski so I didn't notice as much. 

 

I took them back up on Monday and using my old inserts I could immediately tell what he was talking about. Even on the groomers, my ankle, mostly my right, had a tendency to roll and my skis would form that wedge. I put the new insoles in, cinched things down and the next run felt much better. I spent the day on groomers just trying to focus on edges. I went up again today and had an absolute blast. Trees, moguls, groomers... just an overall fun day. The skis still feel like a bit much to control in tight spots, but it's much better and I think I just need to work on form. Anyone else ever have ill-fitting boots cause such an issue?

 

Thanks all for your help!

post #32 of 38

Good to hear you solved the problem.  Boots are such a critical component...everyone has issues with them, you just have to learn from experience to minimize the issues in the future and make each future boot fitting better than the last.  Have fun skiing!  T. - wasatchreport.com

post #33 of 38
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No ski uses titanium.  The ski uses titinal, which is mostly aluminum. I am sure the Rossi website will confirm this.

 

I stand corrected.  But titinal is sometimes referred to as Titanium.  The point being, 2 sheets of metal make for a stiff and often demanding ski.  If the OP is on a ski that is too much for his ability it will suck.

post #34 of 38

Wondering why the boots are a problem but only with the new skis.

post #35 of 38

Op explained this. Old skis were more forgiving of sloppy control of loose fitting boots.

post #36 of 38
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Originally Posted by quant2325 View Post


No ski uses titanium.  The ski uses titinal, which is mostly aluminum. I am sure the Rossi website will confirm this. 
I stand corrected.  But titinal is sometimes referred to as Titanium.  The point being, 2 sheets of metal make for a stiff and often demanding ski.  If the OP is on a ski that is too much for his ability it will suck.

Doesn't the Atomic nomad actually specify titanium? Would be pretty damn misleading if they used titanal.

FEATURES
ARC TECHNOLOGY
WOODCORE
2 LAYER TITANIUM

http://www.atomic.com/en-CA/Products/Alpine/Ski/All%20Mountain/NOMAD_BLACKEYE_TI/AA0024864.aspx?filter=
post #37 of 38

Titinal... Titanium - bottom line, the ski is not an intermediate ski.  I'm sure the ski needs a tune, and maybe the base is too high, but loose boots and stiff ski can spell trouble for some.

post #38 of 38
Maybe coupled with loose boots, but I think in a consumer grade ski even two metal layers aren't that stiff. My head icon has two and I thought they are very well behaved and I know I'm no expert.
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