Originally Posted by roundturns
IMHO Noodler nails it in his post above. It's a real Rubic's cube making all the involved components work together. The Zipfit videos on the website really aren't deceptive , but they make the process look very unentailed .
I am sure it can be but if you already have a tight shell fit getting the Zipfit liner to fit "comfortably" right off the bat probably is not going to happen without a good bit of fitting knowledge and time and effort.
But if you are persistent apparently there are rewards. I threw in the towel and sold mine.
I think this is pretty spot on. I would have never thought the Gara's would work in my shell - at first couldn't even close them across the instep. They are slowly moving so I can at least not see any liner and I think next time will actually be able to close the instep buckle on the last ladder and all the way out. The ladders were moved out on the upper two buckles at first and I have now worked them down to almost the last rung - so will be putting them back after my next trip. IMHO they are definitely a "process" and in my case will take 5-10 days of skiing to get where they need to be (I've skied them about 4.5 days now).
Think that they might be "under selling" the commitment to get them right - it isn't "plug and play" at least for me, still awesome even at this point. Oh, and hella warm.
Just need that footbed issue fixed and that just either sandpaper or $, hope its the former.