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How big is the biggest Gonola in the world?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

How many people would it carry? Where would such a gondola be located? If I remember correctly there used to be one in Val Torens.

post #2 of 17

According to wikipedia they have 33 people/cabin in valthorens.

 

The biggest i have been to is the peak-to-peak gondola in whistler has room for 26p/cabin.

 

 

edit: apprently the Val Thorens one is a funitel not a gondola... (whatever the difference)

post #3 of 17

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funitel

 

It is worth the read. So many ways have been invented for moving people up and down a mountain.

post #4 of 17
A funitel has two cables running in parallel rather than just one (which a gondola has). The main advantage is greater stabilty in wind.
post #5 of 17

The Peak 2 Peak has a capacity of 28 people, it seems to be the largest one I can find. However, if a funitel is distinguished from a gondola by having 2 cables instead of 1, what does that mean for the Peak 2 Peak? it has 3 cables.

post #6 of 17
Peak 2 Peak has two static support cables and one moving haul cable. A funitel has two moving support/haul cables. A gondola has one moving support/haul cable.

These definitions are of course not very official. But Peak 2 Peak is not really a gondola. No shame in that, it is a more advanced design.
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post
 

How many people would it carry? Where would such a gondola be located? If I remember correctly there used to be one in Val Torens.

Do you really mean gondola or do you just mean cable car type thing. The tram at snowbird can hold a 130 people in the usmmmer and about 105 in the winter. The Jackson Hole tram can hold 100 as well.

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Do you really mean gondola or do you just mean cable car type thing. The tram at snowbird can hold a 130 people in the usmmmer and about 105 in the winter. The Jackson Hole tram can hold 100 as well.

 

In Europe the terminology seems to be different.  I've heard people call a "tram" what I'd call a "gondola" over here (lots of little cabins), and what I'd call a "tram" (like at Snowbird) is a "gondola" or "funitel".

 

Biggest 'cable car' type lifts (one big cabin) I've been in are at Snowbird and Zermatt.  Zermatt claims a capacity of 125; they seemed pretty comparable in size to me.

post #9 of 17

Find a glossary of lift terminology including the various types, Funicular, cabriolet, gondola, etc.  here:

 

http://www.skilifts.org/old/glossary.htm

 

(for some reason the link option locks up on me, so only able to copy the URL)

post #10 of 17
Biggest cable car I have been in is the Cime de Caron in Val Thorens. It takes 150 skiers. I think the one in Courchevel is the same size.
post #11 of 17

This one (vanoise express in paradiski) has a capacity of more than 200. It's a double decker.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanoise_Express

post #12 of 17

A gondola and a tram are two different things. A gondola has many different cabins on a continuously circulating drive line, and the cabins can typically be detached from the line for loading and unloading. A tram has two cabins permanently fixed to the drive line, one on each side of the towers. A tram's two cars act as counterweights to one another, like in an elevator. Due to this, a tram's drive line runs in one direction to get the cars to swap stations, then it is stopped for unload and load, then the drive line runs in the opposite direction to return the two cars to where they came from. A gondola's drive line circulates continuously in one direction. In general, a tram's cabin capacity is much larger than a gondola, because of the limited number of cabins.

 

The OP, tdk, is a fairly experienced skier who I'm sure has experience with both gondolas and trams. When he asks about largest gondola and says a number in the 30's, we can assume he is not including trams in the discussion. I can almost guarantee tdk has ridden trams with a capacity much larger than 33.

post #13 of 17

We have a "tram" with a 120 max capacity, 121 with operator, and yes it works on the jigback system with a car going one way and the other going the other way. They soeed up and or slow down corresponding as to how much climb and gravity force the opposite car is dealing with.

   Some if not most transport people to a location where they can access a ski type lift or recreation area rather than being employed as a direct access to a trail or slope.

Ours also uses a three cable system one being the haul cable that pulls the car. I also know that the cables do not react well to an F16 wing.

post #14 of 17

I don't know the answer to the OP's question. I do know that in Europe they will cram a lot more skiers into a given space than they do in the US.

post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 

Sorry guys, I mean Tram. Not Gondola. Over here in Europe we use Gondola for Tram. A bit confusing..... Anyway, I remembered there were Tram's taking several hundred people at once! 

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The OP, tdk, is a fairly experienced skier who I'm sure has experience with both gondolas and trams. When he asks about largest gondola and says a number in the 30's, we can assume he is not including trams in the discussion. I can almost guarantee tdk has ridden trams with a capacity much larger than 33.

 

 

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Sorry guys, I mean Tram. Not Gondola. Over here in Europe we use Gondola for Tram. A bit confusing..... Anyway, I remembered there were Tram's taking several hundred people at once! 

Ha I was right! :p:duck: 

post #17 of 17

Well, don't I feel sheepish.

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