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post #1 of 16
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Looking for some suggestions.  I'm planning to demo a bunch of skis out West this weekend...wanted opinions for an all-mountian ski.  was thinking 100-108 underfoot, as i feel like 98 would be a bit narrow for this being my only ski (unless its super deep pow and i rent some really fat boys).

 

Was looking at the Armada TST, Blizzard Cochise, etc...don't need specific ski suggestions, just wanted thoughts on having a 102mm ski underfoot as my all-mountain go-to ski.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 16
Well, I'm out west and have skied many Utah resorts so far this year. While coverage is pretty good, it's not terribly deep yet so a 90-100 width would be pretty versatile right now. I skied a Cochise at solitude a couple days ago and is was overkill for a lot of the Mtn. However, it was great for the crud and refrozen crap.

We are supposed to get a storm of Thursday so if that materializes if say you'd be spot on in that range of 100-110. Otherwise something narrower would me fine too.

Enjoy your weekend!
post #3 of 16
Also, Depending on which resort you're at, be careful on thin spots. There are some rocky patches - easy to gouge a base of a demo ski. In other words, make sure you add a damage waiver to the demo package. And I've noted that some shops aren't letting out all their new gear yet for this reason.

Hope that helps.
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Originally Posted by Skeebum View Post

Also, Depending on which resort you're at, be careful on thin spots. There are some rocky patches - easy to gouge a base of a demo ski. In other words, make sure you add a damage waiver to the demo package. And I've noted that some shops aren't letting out all their new gear yet for this reason.

Hope that helps.

Thanks!  I'll be in Vail, but have heard it's thin...:(

post #5 of 16
Try out the Kastle Fx104, my shop buds are loving it.
My best bud that ski Blizzards has been on his Gunsmokes more than his Cochise's this year. For slightly narrower the Bones have a huge following.
post #6 of 16

A 95-105 ski as your go to seems reasonable if you're out west. My brother has a 98mm as his daily driver at Squaw/Alpine. I keep a 102mm out there for when I visit (and for his use when I don't). They seem to serve both of us well.

post #7 of 16

Cochise = / = Fatter Bonafide.

 

Maybe look at a Line Influence 105. Well mannered ski that has a nice medium turn radius, mellow splay in the tip, half twin. And some metal in it as well. They can be had for quite a steal as it is a discontinued ski.

post #8 of 16

I'll be lazy and suggest the Soul7.

post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by jor17 View Post
 

Looking for some suggestions.  I'm planning to demo a bunch of skis out West this weekend...wanted opinions for an all-mountian ski.  was thinking 100-108 underfoot, as i feel like 98 would be a bit narrow for this being my only ski (unless its super deep pow and i rent some really fat boys).

 

Was looking at the Armada TST, Blizzard Cochise, etc...don't need specific ski suggestions, just wanted thoughts on having a 102mm ski underfoot as my all-mountain go-to ski.

 

Thanks!

The OP isn't looking for a specific suggestion, just what a good width would be. 

 

Now. to answer the question...depends. How big of a guy are you? 5'5' 120lb or 6'4" 250lb? Charger? Finesse? What is YOUR definition of "All Mtn"? Since it does not snow every day, even in Paradise, and you said you would rent on the big dump days, you very well could err just south of the 100mm mark and still cover 95+% of what you will need. 

post #10 of 16

For a while my every day ski at Kicking Horse was a 185 Nordica Blower at 110mm underfoot. The last few years has been a 189 4frnt Turbo at 108mm.  I just picked up a pair of Whitedot Directors that may replace them.  They're flat camber with rockered tips and tails, and are 107mm underfoot.  Should be fun.

 

 

When looking at a ski to run every day, you need to look at where you want the ski to perform best.  For me, I look for pow performance, so I'll give a little on the groomers.  But that's not to say I want something that doesn't ski on hardpack, I'm just willing to make that sacrifice.

post #11 of 16
Demo center techs can recommend skis for you based on current conditions while you're in Vail. You should be able to demo different models, etc if you rent from a demo center on mtn.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
 

The OP isn't looking for a specific suggestion, just what a good width would be. 

 

True enough.

 

This has been a topic of discussion here before. While I am more than comfortable with 105 as being an all mountain DD, others prefer something 98. Honestly if Line would bring back the cambered 100 I would be giddy. There is a 98 waisted ski coming down the pipe though that I may be interested in.

post #13 of 16

My single ski travel quiver has been 108mm for five years.  XXL's and  now the MX108.  But that may be going up soon. 

 

Maybe fatter, shorter and a little softer.  Kinda like me!

post #14 of 16

IME, anywhere between 95-115 can work, depending on speed, style, location, preference, snowfall in a particular year, etc. 

 

Don't overlook tip profile and flex when you're considering the skis.  These latter two attributes can affect float more than pure width. 

 

Also, IMO, the difference between a 105mm ski and a 98mm ski, with all other factors being equal, is not a big deal.  Flex and tip profile matter more if you're dealing with a narrow band of width.

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post #16 of 16
Since you'll be at Vail... If "west coast" includes CO, UT and WY (with the exception of Alta/Bird) I think 90ish is as wide as you should go unless you avoid the bumps that cover half our mountains.   Make sure you try a ski in this class against the wider skis.  
Something that suits your preferences like a Brahma, Bushwacker, Kendo, E88, Steadfast, Rev90, etc.   If you like, add a second 105+ soft snow ski, or just demo for the 15-20% of days it's actually needed.
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