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Need Mt Rose/Reno instructor for timid wife 12/22

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hello,
Will be up at Mt Rose/Reno Sunday 12/22. Would like to get a private for her in the morning. Need a recommendation for a soft spoken instructor for a shy/timid wife. She's had a couple of group lessons before (elsewhere), but the last instructor put her off. Now, got to start the rehabilitation of her ski spirit, and am hoping the private is right path. Yes, I'm trying to avoid the husband instructing folly.

Replies here or PM work. Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 19

What put her off the last time?

post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
President/MLK weekend... overcrowded group lesson, overworked instructors losing it and yelling... coupled with shy/timid personality.... and probably a slightly more difficult beginner terrain. New venue and private will take care of the terrain and crowding influences. Now to get the right instructor....
post #4 of 19

Linda Good is an incredible instructor for women at Mt Rose.  She's a senior and has headed up the women's program at Mt Rose for several years.  She's a L3, and has been teaching for over 45 years.

  When I was teaching at Mt Rose, she was my mentor and I still stay in touch with her even though I'm not teaching.  As a side note, she's also involved with the Reno Museum of Art, so her interests vary, which gives her a great range to chat about on the chair for that timid skier who's got other interests.

post #5 of 19
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Linda Good is an incredible instructor for women at Mt Rose.  She's a senior and has headed up the women's program at Mt Rose for several years.  She's a L3, and has been teaching for over 45 years.

  When I was teaching at Mt Rose, she was my mentor and I still stay in touch with her even though I'm not teaching.  As a side note, she's also involved with the Reno Museum of Art, so her interests vary, which gives her a great range to chat about on the chair for that timid skier who's got other interests.


Oh and she's an amazing gardener.  She has been featured in Sunset Magazine.

post #6 of 19
Thread Starter 

TC:

Wow, what a referral!  Thanks!  Will start the chase....

post #7 of 19
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TC:

Wow, what a referral!  Thanks!  Will start the chase....

I got in contact with her to ask what days she's working.  She is not working Sundays so will not be available, but she gave a couple recommendations. 

 

... Hans Peter Baier or Mark Downing.  They are both very good instructors as well as very kind.  

post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 

Wouldn't you know... it's one step forward, two steps back...

 

I get my wife to agree to private instruction in the PM, and in the AM it's a change of heart.  Well, at least she's up for a group lesson at a new venue.  Though she's (currently) up for a private at our more local mountain (where the hurt feelings happened).

 

How do I convince her that a private will give her more progress?  I've said the words....  How to crack the disbelief?  Just book the private for her, and tell her it's a "lucky group" lesson?  Tell her the group lessons were all booked, and only privates were left?

 

Hmm... am thinking it might be a "value" question... she's willing blow money on other "good" stuff, but not on this....

 

Thanks for the recommendations and the tree shaking (talking w/ friends).

 

What's the phrase, "Roll w/ the punches"?


Edited by plai - 12/18/13 at 9:50am
post #9 of 19
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 How do I convince her that a private will give her more progress?  I've said the words....  How to crack the disbelief?  Just book the private for her, and tell her it's a "lucky group" lesson?  Tell her the group lessons were all booked, and only privates were left?

 

If she won't be comfortable in a private lesson -- for whatever reason -- it might not actually help her to progress.  Some people do better 1-on-1, others feel more comfortable with a group dynamic and not feeling singled out.  Lying about it is unlikely to help.  If she's telling you she prefers a group lesson and it's not just about the cost, forcing her into a private may not turn out well.

 

Some ski schools guarantee a maximum size for their group lessons, avoiding the overcrowding issue.  Showing up on a non-vacation-week weekday in most places will also usually get you a small group.

 

If you want a group lesson with a particular instructor, you can try talking to the ski school directly... maybe they can work something out?  They may be able to direct her to a more 'gentle' group and instructor if you ask.

post #10 of 19
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 How do I convince her that a private will give her more progress?  I've said the words....  How to crack the disbelief?  Just book the private for her, and tell her it's a "lucky group" lesson?  Tell her the group lessons were all booked, and only privates were left?

 

If she won't be comfortable in a private lesson -- for whatever reason -- it might not actually help her to progress.  Some people do better 1-on-1, others feel more comfortable with a group dynamic and not feeling singled out.  Lying about it is unlikely to help.  If she's telling you she prefers a group lesson and it's not just about the cost, forcing her into a private may not turn out well.

 

Some ski schools guarantee a maximum size for their group lessons, avoiding the overcrowding issue.  Showing up on a non-vacation-week weekday in most places will also usually get you a small group.

 

If you want a group lesson with a particular instructor, you can try talking to the ski school directly... maybe they can work something out?  They may be able to direct her to a more 'gentle' group and instructor if you ask.

lol. Yes, this has  "Danger Will Robinson!" written all over it. Would make a decent episode of "Modern Family" though.

 

Just do an afternoon group lesson. Very few adult skiers above level 4 take afternoon lessons. Which means there's likely to be maybe 3 people.  Could be just one too. At least in the East. Not sure about The Rose.

post #11 of 19

Mt Rose will still be pretty quiet on 12/22

post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
@Matthias99: Hadn't occurred to me a non-private might be a better dynamic. Her complaint was about cost; which didn't make sense (to me). Need to recheck things. Thanks for the other permutations to check too. Thanks.

@Tog: My life is usually a little boring... Playing the misguided husband might shake things up. ;-) Haven't seen Modern Family, but know the guy's previous role of Al Bundy.... Seriously though, I'm not going to play that guy.

Thanks for the (in)sanity check....
post #13 of 19
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@ScotsSkier thanks for the datapoint.
post #14 of 19
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I got in contact with her to ask what days she's working.  She is not working Sundays so will not be available, but she gave a couple recommendations. 

 

... Hans Peter Baier or Mark Downing.  They are both very good instructors as well as very kind.  

Just remember these names and see if you can introduce yourself to either of them while you're there.  If your wife gets comfortable she may be open to your suggestions in the future. 

post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
The more I remember of our early discussions, her desire was to work w/ me in the morning.... But, I didn't want to fall into the spouse teaching spouse folly frequently mentioned in other threads. So, sounds like a lose, lose for me :-). Either way I incur some emotional scar tissue.

Will keep the names. Thanks again for your efforts.
post #16 of 19

So, ski with her in the morning and give up what you think teaching her is. Don't teach her. Don't discuss technique so much as give her stuff to do. First off, be sure to use terrain that is easy and not scary at all.  Just work on controlling speed by the line you ski. Very curved, across the hill is slow, straighter is faster.

For the rest, you've got this below. You'll know what to do.

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Originally Posted by plai View Post

Hello,
Will be up at Mt Rose/Reno Sunday 12/22. Would like to get a private for her in the morning. Need a recommendation for a soft spoken instructor for a shy/timid wife. She's had a couple of group lessons before (elsewhere), but the last instructor put her off. Now, got to start the rehabilitation of her ski spirit, and am hoping the private is right path. Yes, I'm trying to avoid the husband instructing folly.

Replies here or PM work. Thanks in advance.
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
@Tog, that's my game plan. Thanks again for the support.
post #18 of 19
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So, ski with her in the morning and give up what you think teaching her is. Don't teach her. Don't discuss technique so much as give her stuff to do. First off, be sure to use terrain that is easy and not scary at all.  Just work on controlling speed by the line you ski. Very curved, across the hill is slow, straighter is faster.

For the rest, you've got this below. You'll know what to do.

 

 

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@Tog, that's my game plan. Thanks again for the support.

 

Good plan.

post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 
Plan worked. I'm relatively unscathed. One of her biggest concerns was being able to get off the lift w/o falling. 2 days at Mt Rose, w/ the wife getting more and more comfortable each chair lift ride. The other big concern was control w/ the wedge. She was even surprised to make it down some of the steeper slopes without incident. She felt comfortable enough the second day to ski w/ the kids. Wouldn't say there was a huge smile at the end of the trip, but there's talk of a follow up. That's a win.

Thanks again for the encouragements and course corrections.
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