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2013/14 Marker Griffon

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 

Just got em mounted on new skis and I have vertical play in the toe area. Is there a toe height adjustment on the 13/14 Griffon? How is it done?

 

When ski is flat not so noticeable......when ski is flexed slightly can notice it more.

post #2 of 19
Mine were making clicking noses constantly until we raised the plate under the toe. Will never get these bindings again. Until they showed me what to do I was constantly bringing them in as the adjustment doesn't hold.
post #3 of 19
There's a toe height adjustment on that model. .5 mm between boot toe and afd.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Chenzo View Post

There's a toe height adjustment on that model. .5 mm between boot toe and afd.


Ok, how is the toe height adjusment done?

post #5 of 19
Take it to a shop. Sorry, I don't give specific binding adjustment advice on the Internet or in person.
post #6 of 19
There is a screw in front and under the toepiece, it's pretty obvious if you start looking. Don't overdo it, otherwise the release will be impacted. You should be able to pull a thin plastic card from under the boot toe with little or no effort. Take it to the shop to check the adjustment at the first opportunity (actually, even better to do it before you ski it).
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

There is a screw in front and under the toepiece, it's pretty obvious if you start looking. Don't overdo it, otherwise the release will be impacted. You should be able to pull a thin plastic card from under the boot toe with little or no effort. Take it to the shop to check the adjustment at the first opportunity (actually, even better to do it before you ski it).


Thank-you.

post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 

New shells, new Griffon's, shop adjusted, still have vertical toe play when stepped in can lift toe up and down in toe piece........afd was adjusted, forward pressure was adjusted, next step thicker afd.....

post #9 of 19

If your boots toe and heel lugs meet the adult Alpine standard and the binding is properly adjusted, there should be no need for a thicker AFD plate. There is a small gap designed to be there...up to 0.5mm is permitted.


Edited by GorgeSkier - 12/22/13 at 8:55am
post #10 of 19
I had a lot of trouble with my Griffons due to that adjustable height thing. We've got the under toe plate thing (AFD?) raised up quite a bit. Never had the issue with the same boots on my other bindings.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by GorgeSkier View Post
 

If your boots toe and heel lugs meet the adult Alpine standard and the binding is properly adjusted, there should be no need for a thicker AFD plate. There is a small gap designed to be there...up to 0.5mm is permitted.

Tecnica boots.....adult male size....should meet alpine standard, gap under ball of foot is not the issue.......toe rocking up and down when locked in and foot in boot w/my body weight in ski is the issue.

 

It's looking more like certain brands of boot fit better in this binding than others.....while this should NOT be the case.....that's what it's appearing to be......unless I've got the 1 in a million freak defect.

post #12 of 19
How much do you weigh?
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

How much do you weigh?


145lbs....but why would weight matter........that's related more to DIN setting.right?

 

Seems to me like there's been issues w/this and Marker knows about it so they owe me a new pair of skis and my choice of bindings since these skis were brand new and the bindings aren't compatible w/every boot, maybe Marker needs to make that known so people like me don't get stuck w/a sloppy binding/boot combo.

post #14 of 19
Can you post up where Marker knows about it? I'm interested in learning more about this apparent issue.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 

Well...it's all over newschoolers forums....isn't that good enough.

 

Seriously though...there's a lot of complaints about Griffon's. I've not had much luck w/Marker system on my K2's also.

 

http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=marker+griffon+toe+slop&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

post #16 of 19

I have a couple of 12/13 Griffins and have not experienced this paired with my Lange boots thus far. Guess I'll keep an eye on it.

post #17 of 19

I think the problem lies in how this feature is being adjusted.  The afd is raised by turning the adjustment screw counter-clockwise, not clockwise.  I have never had an issue making this adjustment, even on worn boots.

 

Post a pic of the toe piece with the boot in.

post #18 of 19
I know this is an older thread, but in case anyone comes here with this issue here's what I discovered. When you first click in the toe goes into a "low" position, and if you just set the toe height at that point, it will seem like you are under the .5 mm, but as you apply upward pressure on the toe, suddenly you'll notice that the boot shifts. Using the business card method, I couldn't seem to get enough clearance no matter how much I lowered the AFT to get the card under the boot. Then I checked the technician guide and there's a note about pulling up on the toe. Sure enough there was way TOO much clearance.

Hopefully most shops know about this, but if your doing it yourself be sure you check the toe height after you put your wife in the boots and tell her to lean back all the way on her heals and try to pull up the toe of the boot. Check clearance. Adjust. Repeat as needed.
post #19 of 19
I had forgotten how much fun this was to do. It is easier in the shop on the bench. You use the pseudo foot/leg from the binding release checker for your upward leverage.
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