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Smith IO(x) vs. Oakley airbrake

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

Does anybody have an experience with these 2 goggles?

Smith I/O (I/OX)

Oakley Airbrake

 

I had recently bought Smith I/OX and found that they are too big for my face (when wearing it with helmet), while I was considering change them to Smith I/O....

I went to local REI and tried both Smith I/OX vs Smith I/O with my helmet, both been almost identical while I have to agree that I/O is a little bit smaller and push less on my nose while wearing with helmet.

Since REI had more than one brand, I had decided to try Oakley airbrake with my helmet....

Oh boy, it was really a difference in the feet... Oakley were much better/comfortable than either Smith I/O or I/OX, and that bring me to the question:

 

Does Smith has better lenses (consider that it is optic company) then Oakley?

Why would one prefer Smith vs. Oakley or vice versa? (price point is almost identical: $175 vs $220 [but Oakley gives their customers a hard case for the goggles, probably an extra $30])

 

Thank you,

 

Oleg

post #2 of 22
Thread Starter 

I am almost consider to go with Oakley due to the better feet, but still thinking if I would miss something with Smith if the lenses are much better?

 

P.S. for what it worse, I had tried to change the lenses on Smith I/O vs. Oakley airbrake and even IO/X seems to be better changable design, changing lenses on Oakley was much easier and quicker.

So, basically, I am wondering is qualilty of Smith lenses is much better vs Oakley.

 

Oleg

post #3 of 22

Sounds like the I/O is still too big for your face. Try the I/Os - will probably yield a much better fit.

post #4 of 22

I would argue that Oakley is, first and foremost, an optical company as well. 

 

Smith lenses are certainly among the best, and certainly many would argue that they are the best. But Oakley lenses are also fantastic and it would be hard to find any measurable difference in quality. The Oakley HI Yellow is one of the best flat light lenses and many people swear by it. 

 

I love Smith lenses, but I also don't fit the I/OX or the I/O (gap above my nose). I do fit the I/OS but I find the field of vision too small. I'm currently using an anon.

 

Get the Oakley if it fits well. It's not inferior to the Smith, just an alternative.

post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by kauffee View Post

I love Smith lenses, but I also don't fit the I/OX or the I/O (gap above my nose).

Same problem, cut some weatherstripping to stick in the gap and all is good.
post #6 of 22

I have both and find them both suitable but if push came to shove I'd say my Oakleys fit better so I'd go with that. Pick the one that fits your face better.

 

I have some Oakley sunglasses on which the lens optical quality blows, but my Oakley ski goggle lenses don't have any noticeable distortion.

 

Even though the internet says that Smith blue sensor lenses are the best in flat light I'd have to say the Oakley HI yellows are better.

 

BTW, Smith makes an Asian fit for those who have nose gap with standard goggles. Here's one of five models available from REI:

http://www.rei.com/product/860734/smith-io-snow-goggles-fire-blockhead-frame-red-sol-x-mirror-lens-asian-fit

post #7 of 22
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Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
 

I have both and find them both suitable but if push came to shove I'd say my Oakleys fit better so I'd go with that. Pick the one that fits your face better.

I have had both. Agree.

I have some Oakley sunglasses on which the lens optical quality blows, but my Oakley ski goggle lenses don't have any noticeable distortion.

 

Even though the internet says that Smith blue sensor lenses are the best in flat light I'd have to say the Oakley HI yellows are better.

Agreed

 

BTW, Smith makes an Asian fit for those who have nose gap with standard goggles. Here's one of five models available from REI:

http://www.rei.com/product/860734/smith-io-snow-goggles-fire-blockhead-frame-red-sol-x-mirror-lens-asian-fit

Having had both, and having no issue with fit. I went with the Airbrake.

 

The main reason were as follows:

 

I felt the I/O lense interface had more gaps, and ended up being a little drafty on cold windy days.

The airbrake lens change/retention system is superior.

The VR50 Pink is probably one of the best lenses for greybird days, and the days you just aren't sure about the light.

Overall fit and finish is superior to Smith.

post #8 of 22
You said you have a fit issue with the Smiths. I don't understand what your problem is then: Pick the one that fits. You are truly splitting hairs here, both are great goggles. You actually had your answer before you posted.
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 

The VR50 Pink is probably one of the best lenses for greybird days, and the days you just aren't sure about the light.

 

 

This is so true... totally underrated lens. I just got the anon m2 with a good bluebird lens and a good flat light lens... but one day last weekend I wasn't really sure which it was going to be, so I used my Oakleys with Pink VR50. I never regret using that lens.

post #10 of 22
Although I have the pink iridium, I still would like to say the best lens for flat light is clear...initially I got the clear for night skiing...
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by LaserPower View Post

Although I have the pink iridium, I still would like to say the best lens for flat light is clear...initially I got the clear for night skiing...


Meh,

I won't even wear clear for night skiing. Hi yellow makes terrain nuances pop better in flat/low light. Clear just keeps flat light flat.

post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post
 

 Hi yellow makes terrain nuances pop better in flat/low light. Clear just keeps flat light flat.

 

That's been my experience too.

post #13 of 22

Maybe I'm weird, but the IOX fits my fat head really well.  That and the Sensor Mirror/Green SolX lens combo is really hard to beat in the northwest.

post #14 of 22

I tried the Airbrake and the IOX.  I'm 6', 190, have a normal size head (i think)...the Airbrakes were too tight on the outside of my eyes...The IOX work great for my face and also line up well with my Giro helmet.  I found the curved nature of the top of the Airbrakes (like most Oakleys) caused too big of a gap for my Giro helmet.

post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post


Meh,
I won't even wear clear for night skiing. Hi yellow makes terrain nuances pop better in flat/low light. Clear just keeps flat light flat.

Lol I don't like how yellow lens make everything look yellow. Grey and blue based lenses are my favorite. Red base are ok but I just cannot tolerate yellow base...
post #16 of 22
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Lol I don't like how yellow lens make everything look yellow. Grey and blue based lenses are my favorite. Red base are ok but I just cannot tolerate yellow base...


I guess since i don't really think about the actual color, it makes little difference to me.

post #17 of 22

You can't go wrong with either brand.  Both top notch.  If Oakley's fit better, there you go.  I have the Oakley HI yellow lens and find it very versatile.

post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post


Meh,
I won't even wear clear for night skiing. Hi yellow makes terrain nuances pop better in flat/low light. Clear just keeps flat light flat.

Lol I don't like how yellow lens make everything look yellow. Grey and blue based lenses are my favorite. Red base are ok but I just cannot tolerate yellow base...

 

I'm similar, don't like everything to look yellow. However, I discovered last season that the Smith Blue was even worse for me. Gave me a headache. I was loaned the googles in flat light at Abasin in snowing conditions. Literally couldn't tolerate it, tried even with no goggles that run which was impossible. Switched back to the darker googles I had. Better to be half blind than half mad.

 

I've never had that issue with yellow, so if blue or yellow I'll go yellow even though I dislike it. Prefer reddish I guess.

Being red/green color deficient, aka "color blind", probably has something to do with it.

post #19 of 22

The HI Yellow lenses only look yellow to me when I first put them on but after a short time (a few seconds) I no longer notice the color. I just appreciate the terrain definition.

post #20 of 22

I think the biggest advantage of the Smith Blue Sensor is that if the sun comes out, it's a better lens than the HI Yellow. Despite the ability to quick-change lenses on the fly with all these new models, I usually make my lens choice in the parking lot and don't carry the spares with me.

post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by kauffee View Post
 

I think the biggest advantage of the Smith Blue Sensor is that if the sun comes out, it's a better lens than the HI Yellow. Despite the ability to quick-change lenses on the fly with all these new models, I usually make my lens choice in the parking lot and don't carry the spares with me.

 

I'm fortunate that my eyes (dark, mysterious, mesmerizing) aren't terribly sensitive to bright light so even if the sun comes out I'm alright with the yellow, but I could see how it would be a problem for those who are light-sensitive.

post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by Toecutter View Post
 

 

I'm fortunate that my eyes (dark, mysterious, mesmerizing) aren't terribly sensitive to bright light so even if the sun comes out I'm alright with the yellow, but I could see how it would be a problem for those who are light-sensitive.

Ditto.  My sensor lenses tend to stay put in the IOX for probably 90% of days during the middle of winter (in our perpetual fog and greybird weather).  Then in springtime, I run the Sol X for bluebird days.

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