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Looking to buy my first pair of skis, don't know which ones to get! [FL, in college]

post #1 of 11
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Basically,I've wanted skis since I learned how to when I was 12, and now that I'm 20, in college, and have a job I'm thinking it would be a pretty good investment, especially as I've stopped growing. I'm 5'7" and 120lbs and haven't changed for the last 2 years. I do live in Florida, however my friend and I are planning a trip to NC this January over break and we might go to Wisconsin or Colorado over spring break in March. Next fall I'm going to Switzerland for a study abroad program, and wouldn't it be fabulous to ski there! I just hate feeling inexperienced and immature waiting in line for rental skis with dozens of small children while my friends tell me they'll see me later as they have their own equipment. 
I'd say I'm a beginning to intermediate skier, I can do blue squares comfortably but I'm a chicken and have never tried anything else. I have gone over small jumps successfully as well but its not my favorite. 
Anyway, I found two listings on Craigslist in my area selling skis, boots, poles, and a bag for $225. I'm assuming these are great deals, and the boots are even in my size! I figured I'd need skis between 150-160cm, but I know little to nothing about skis, so I was hoping some of you could help me out and let me know if you think this is a good investment. I called the airlines I usually fly and they told me that skis+ a boot bag would be considered one checked bag, which is $25. 
Anyway, these are the listings I found: 
Voikl 154cm parabolic downhill skis with Marker Motion Bindings for medium or advanced skiers. 
K2 Escape 4500 Skis, Tyrolia SP70 bindings, Poles, Wms Technica Diablo Flame boots 

Also, as far as boots are concerned, should I go for a size bigger or my shoe size? I like to wear thick socks when I use the rental boots, but if my boots fit more comfortably then I'd be happy wearing normal socks as long as my feet stayed warm. Also, how much is it to take care of them? I've read about waxing and tuning and all this stuff but I have no idea how to do any of it and would probably have to take it somewhere to have it done. My friend said she's never tuned her snowboard and she's had it for 2 years and it still works perfectly. 
Basically I just don't know a lot about this but I don't want to sped $250+ if its only going to be a hassle. I'd take the lines with the kids over never using my skis because taking care of them is too expensive or time consuming.
Thanks!
 
post #2 of 11
Welcome to epic!
Have no idea what the Volkl skis are since there's no model name. Those K2's are probably from 7 or 8 years ago. Maybe longer, I remember them. Not a bad ski, but not worth much. They are worth about $50 max. If that. That assumes they're skiable with decent bindings.
The further you get from ski country, the more people charge for old stuff. Put it this way, doubtful anyone in Summit County, CO would buy that Craigslist package.
Realize that shops will not adjust bindings if they are not on a indemnified list. Old bindings may not be.
225$ for the package doesn't sound bad until you discover that probably nothing is good for you. The bag is ok if you like it. Used boots that probably don't fit is a not a good idea. And the skis aren't worth much.
You are better off just buying boots. ones that fit. It's not just shoe size.
When you go to a ski mt, rent at a shop off the mountain. You usually get better equip and deals. NC may be a different story.

Is there no ski club at your school? There are a couple of Florida ski clubs. You'd be well off getting in contact with one of them. They could offer local advice. People might have old gear like the skis you're about to buy to give away or sell very cheaply.
post #3 of 11

Welcome to our world.  Be careful of buying packages from Craigslist just because they are cheap.  If you buy anything, buy boots but buy them new and make sure they are the right fit.  It's not as easy as shoe size/ski boot size.  At minimum, you need to try them on.  Preferably, you can spend time, trying on multiple pairs and comparing them; the best option is to see a bootfitter to help you decide but this is expensive. Start here to see what I mean about the details of finding a boot that fits:

http://www.epicski.com/a/boot-fitting-which-boot-will-work-for-me

 

Ski socks are what you should be wearing as they will give you the most warmth and the best fit.

 

Tuning the skis is no big deal, but you should take them into the shop at the beginning of each season (wax, edge, binding check) to make sure they are ready to go.  This costs approximately $40.  

 

Depending on how many days you are planning to ski this season, renting skis is probably your best bet.  Investing in boots is by far the best choice as you can carry those to Switzerland and easily rent skis.  The boots are the most important piece of equipment a skier owns as they determine a good day or a bad day.  Great skis and poorly fitted boots equals one bad day of skiing.

post #4 of 11
Welcome to Epic. As has already been noted, forget Craig's List for ski packages and boots. DO NOT buy used boots. Forget skis for the time being and concentrate on getting boots that actually fit your feet rather than fitting someone else's feet. Get a couple pair of good quality ski socks like Smartwool or Lorpen or Point 6, and make sure they are not thick, you want fairly thin socks. Do not try on boots without those sock. Hopefully Marznc will show up here because she knows of a decent fitter in NC and that is who you should go see.
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Originally Posted by 12jackjack View Post
 
Basically,I've wanted skis since I learned how to when I was 12, and now that I'm 20, in college, and have a job I'm thinking it would be a pretty good investment, especially as I've stopped growing. I'm 5'7" and 120lbs and haven't changed for the last 2 years. I do live in Florida, however my friend and I are planning a trip to NC this January over break and we might go to Wisconsin or Colorado over spring break in March. Next fall I'm going to Switzerland for a study abroad program, and wouldn't it be fabulous to ski there! I just hate feeling inexperienced and immature waiting in line for rental skis with dozens of small children while my friends tell me they'll see me later as they have their own equipment. 
I'd say I'm a beginning to intermediate skier, I can do blue squares comfortably but I'm a chicken and have never tried anything else. I have gone over small jumps successfully as well but its not my favorite. 
Anyway, I found two listings on Craigslist in my area selling skis, boots, poles, and a bag for $225. I'm assuming these are great deals, and the boots are even in my size! I figured I'd need skis between 150-160cm, but I know little to nothing about skis, so I was hoping some of you could help me out and let me know if you think this is a good investment. I called the airlines I usually fly and they told me that skis+ a boot bag would be considered one checked bag, which is $25. 
Anyway, these are the listings I found: 
Voikl 154cm parabolic downhill skis with Marker Motion Bindings for medium or advanced skiers. 
K2 Escape 4500 Skis, Tyrolia SP70 bindings, Poles, Wms Technica Diablo Flame boots 

Also, as far as boots are concerned, should I go for a size bigger or my shoe size? I like to wear thick socks when I use the rental boots, but if my boots fit more comfortably then I'd be happy wearing normal socks as long as my feet stayed warm. Also, how much is it to take care of them? I've read about waxing and tuning and all this stuff but I have no idea how to do any of it and would probably have to take it somewhere to have it done. My friend said she's never tuned her snowboard and she's had it for 2 years and it still works perfectly. 
Basically I just don't know a lot about this but I don't want to sped $250+ if its only going to be a hassle. I'd take the lines with the kids over never using my skis because taking care of them is too expensive or time consuming.
Thanks!
 

Welcome to EpicSki!  Good for you to ask some questions before buying anything.  As others have said, not really a bargain to buy someone else's old ski stuff just because it's cheap.  Would you want a 5 year old laptop?  Ski boots and skis technology keeps changing.  Not quite as fast as computers, but enough that buying old stuff (more than a year or two) is rarely worthwhile unless the buyer is very knowledgeable.

 

Where are you thinking of going in NC?  For how long?  You would have more options in terms of finding a boot fitter in Colorado.  What you want to buy is call "new old stock," which a good ski shop has around all the time.  Of course, more likely to have a sale going on in late season, which starts in March most places.  Ski Country in Banner Elk has a good boot fitter.  It's right across from Sugar.  My first 4-buckle boots were about $250 during pre-season Dec sales.

 

If you rent off the mountain, it's really not that bad.  Even better if you rent the night before.  If you are waiting in line with the families with little kids, then you got to the mountain too late.  Best to arrive an hour before the lifts open if renting on mountain.  Ski Country has rentals.  Usually off mountain is not only less of a hassle, it's cheaper too.  Especially for multi-day rentals.

 

Even people who spend $600-1000 for custom boots may rent skis when they fly somewhere for a ski vacation.  Meaning they leave their own skis at home because it's a hassle to bring them or they are models not as well suited for the snow conditions where they are going.  Note that they bring their boots as carry-on.

 

I suggest you read the First Run Articles (under Articles on menu bar).  Then ask more questions.

post #6 of 11
Given your situation, it might be easier to rent skis for the first couple of times. Ski gears are not investment, they depreciate like cars, and if you buy all beginner stuff you'll quickly outgrow them and have to buy new ones.

As for boot size, you want to size DOWN, I found this chart to be relatively accurate. http://www.levelninesports.com/Boot-Sizing-Chart-And-Info

Oh and if you go in March, the season end sale should have already started, so maybe go find one in person would be an good option.
Edited by jzmtl - 12/16/13 at 9:44pm
post #7 of 11
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As for boot size, you want to size DOWN, I found this chart to be relatively accurate. http://www.levelninesports.com/Boot-Sizing-Chart-And-Info
 

I would doubt the chart. My daily shoes are US men size 11.5 and my ski boots are 27.5. According to the charts I should be in a 29.5. For boots, still get a boot fitter and have him/her do the shell fit to confirm. 

post #8 of 11
That chart doesn't work for me either. 1.5 size lower.
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by LaserPower View Post

I would doubt the chart. My daily shoes are US men size 11.5 and my ski boots are 27.5. According to the charts I should be in a 29.5. For boots, still get a boot fitter and have him/her do the shell fit to confirm. 

Weirdos excluded, lol. I duno how the heck do you squeeze into 27.5, I wear 10.5 shoes but 28.5 is barely possible.
post #10 of 11
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Weirdos excluded, lol. I duno how the heck do you squeeze into 27.5, I wear 10.5 shoes but 28.5 is barely possible.

Surprising - could be the shape of you foot rather than length. I'm size 10 shoe and 26.5 boot and that's about average for most people. With custom insoles my toes don't touch the inside of the boot toe.

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post

Weirdos excluded, lol. I duno how the heck do you squeeze into 27.5, I wear 10.5 shoes but 28.5 is barely possible.

My feet measured 100 in last and 28 in length. Right is a little more than 28 and left is a little less. In my 27.5 my toes slightly touch the front when standing straight.
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