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post #31 of 40
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Originally Posted by borntoski683 View Post
 

we're on the same page then. I do not feel there is a clear way to convey the idea of inside foot tipping tothe LTE, to children.  I'd love to hear if someone has some good approaches for this with kids.  Telling them how to tip their skis has been covered many ways of course...  We have many visualizations for how to tip or untip, but anyway, never mind, seems like nobody gets my question.

 

My eleven year old has an annoying habit of trying to scrape the snow off the top of one ski with the other whilst on the lift. I'm sure most kids do this; snow on their skis bugs the little OCD darlings. She does it by tipping the LTE across the other ski. I got tired of the scratches on her skis one day and told her to stop. Being a kid, she got off the lift, picked up one foot and tried to scrape the snow off whilst skiing. Perfect turn. Now she just "scrapes the snow off" to initiate her turns.


Edited by MrGolfAnalogy - 12/18/13 at 10:41pm
post #32 of 40

haha  I must either still be a little kid or OCD.  Probably a little of both, cuz I do that too.  Great analogy!  

post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by MrGolfAnalogy View Post
 

 

My eleven year old has an annoying habit of trying to scrape the snow off the top of one ski with the other whilst on the lift. I'm sure most kids do this; snow on their skis bugs the little OCD darlings. She does it by tipping the LTE across the other ski. I got tired of the scratches on her skis one day and told her to stop. Being a kid, she got off the lift, picked up one foot and tried to scrape the snow off whilst skiing. Perfect turn. Now she just "scrapes the snow off" to initiate her turns.

 

Sounds a little like a Javelin turn?

post #34 of 40
Duped again!
post #35 of 40
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Originally Posted by Nikoras View Post
 

I've found that this little leap of faith causes me to slightly pivot, this would teach a skiier to slarve instead of carve. Perfectly well for getting a beginner down the mountain, but setting them up for bad habbits in the future.

LOL,

After years of carefully carving to eliminate drifty slarves, I have come around to viewing pure railed carves as a bad habit, ;)

post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by Buttinski View Post
 

LOL,

After years of carefully carving to eliminate drifty slarves, I have come around to viewing pure railed carves as a bad habit, ;)

Too true, in any "difficult terrain" you're always going to want some form of pivoting. It's good to have all the tools in your kit though.

post #37 of 40
Tipping to turn does not have to be pure carved.

Everyone try this experiment in flat terrain, go straight and try with all your might to hold one ski straight and flat, standing on it with your weight like on a skateboard; while you tip the other one by lifting up the inside edge like you are opening a hinged garbage can lid. The ski you are trying with all your might to hold straight and flat and ride like a skateboard; will turn, you can't stop it from happening when you tip the other ski. If you really try to hold that outside skateboard ski flat, it will make a brushed turn and if you try to pivot you will ruin it, so don't
Edited by borntoski683 - 12/19/13 at 5:34pm
post #38 of 40
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Originally Posted by borntoski683 View Post

I'm huge fan of the LTE tipping focus. Do any of you guys have good suggestions for teaching kids this particular stuff?

stompers? stampiing the inside ski in the snow.

ten steps? tamed down version of 1000 steps.
post #39 of 40
Step turns with a lot if focus about the LTE can be good but I think with kids what you usually get with stompers are them stomping the foot anyway they can and really hardly a real focus on the inside foot tipping to LTE.

I am thinking another approach might be some kind of thing about lifting the arch of the foot towards the way you want to turn. Maybe imagine there is a cup of cocoa on the ski and tip the cup to pour on the side you want to turn, focusing specifically on the inside ski somehow. Most common kids drills are not that specific. Thy have to be. The problem is that this movement does need to be specific.
post #40 of 40
So go inside, take off the boots and SHOW them cupping the instep. Have them practice it in their stockingfeet. Then get back in the boots and go back to the skis.
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