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post #61 of 72

They are pretty good!   You couldn't pay me enough to throw a heli on XC skis. 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, actually any skis anymore.

 

 

Should be good skiing in the mid west this week.  Good year to get new equipment.

post #62 of 72
Today was the best day of a good season, 4-6" over a good base.
post #63 of 72

 

 

just like with alpines wider is better :) 

post #64 of 72

Sometimes.

post #65 of 72

My friend has been using my metal edges so I put some big bindings on my old wooden 7 foot skis. You can lean hard and get them to turn or try to lunge and step into the turn.  Either way you will be lucky to get 50% success.  Plan on wiping out a lot and have fun.

post #66 of 72

I've got a question about grip tape (discussed a bit starting with post #51 above). It's an alternative to grip wax, so intended to go into the wax pocket of a cambered XC  ski, which by design is only intended to contact snow when all the body weight is pushing down on one ski (at least on true double cambered XC skis).

 

So if you take a tele ski, which may have little camber, certainly not double camber, and put some grip tape under the boot area, (more or less where the wax pocket would be), could you get enough bite for climbing low angle stuff but not enough to ruin the glide coming down? Something close to what a waxless base would provide?

 

I never got a chance to try this last winter, and the best way would be to just go out and give it a shot, but thought I'd ask if anyone has been down that road and has some tips about how to apply the grip tape. How much - full strips, or just small patches spaced out, etc?

post #67 of 72
You can accomplish the same thing by using kick eat and have more versatility depending on the temps and snow condition. The right was makes the up and tour easy and has little resistance on the down.

If you don't want to wax I would go waxless bases over grip tape. You get that nice buzzing sound on hard pack or in the set trail tracks smile.gif
post #68 of 72

"kick eat"? What dat?

 

"waxless bases over grip tape"?? Are you saying affix some waxless base material to the ski base using grip tape?

 

Hmm, that's a thought. I have an older pair of waxless XC skis that are shot, but they do have waxless bases. Hmm...

post #69 of 72

*very* low angle, but yes.    By very low angle I mean if you look at the topo map here:

http://www.whitegrass.com/downloads%202011/Map4-White%20Grass-Wilderness1-12-10-layersLG.jpg

 

you can totally climb 3mile with grip tape and even all the way up to the knob but you will backslide on Highland View unless there's a crapload of new snow.   Or unless you do hairpins all the way up (ooof!).

 

The contact area for grip tape is shorter than that for waxless bases, from the heel to a little in front of the binding.   Digger is correct - kick wax works better in the right sort of snow.       In the wrong sort of snow - well I use grip tape to avoid having to use viola klister.

post #70 of 72
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Originally Posted by jc-ski View Post

"kick eat"? What dat?

"waxless bases over grip tape"?? Are you saying affix some waxless base material to the ski base using grip tape?

Hmm, that's a thought. I have an older pair of waxless XC skis that are shot, but they do have waxless bases. Hmm...

Not doing well spelling wax today.


I was suggesting wax would be better than grip tape. If waxing was too much then I would go waxless over grip,tape. As for peeling the waxless base off and old pair of skis. That seems like a big challenge unless you have the right tools, solvents, and adhesives.

I would agree grip tape/kicker skins work better than keister in slushy corn.
post #71 of 72

Cold Dry Snow? - Go with wax, better than tape and easy to get right. Warm wet snow - I'd go with tape but it was no miracle drug for me. Hard wax over klister in warm/wet was good, when it worked.

post #72 of 72

More wild and crazy guys on XC skis...

 

 

And lots more where that came from...

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/xcskierinak/videos

 

Originally cop'd from here, which has even more good stuff!

 

http://forrestmccarthy.blogspot.com/2012/03/equipment-for-adventure-nordic.html

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