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post #1 of 15
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How is everyone doing? New to the site and have found a good amount of information on here already but like my name says I am in over my head. I am just going to come out and say it... Yes, I am a knuckle dragger (a term my father and the old guys use for snowboarders). I have been doing a lot of research to get my girl friend the perfect ski to make her happy and I have come across the 2013 Salomon Rockette. It is labelled as an all mountain ski and are 153 length with dimensions 130-86-114. She is about 5 foot 2 130 pounds (maybe lighter I am not really sure) and is a very experienced skier that could use a little work on her technique. 

 

So this is where things get interesting. We are from MA and would ride Sunday River almost every weekend until this year when we moved to Anchorage AK. Right now she rides some hand me downs from her brother that are also 153 and 73 underfoot. She does fine on them but last year had a lot of trouble in the couple of powder days we got to ride. Here is my question, is the 86 underfoot going to help her in powder or should I get her something 100 underfoot and she can ride her old skis when its not a powder day?

 

My research has shown that the rocker tips will help her stay up in the snow but the skinner midsection will allow her to also ride the lower part of Alyeska (the resort here in AK) where she will run into groomers, mashed potatoes, ice, and bumps. We are also interested in doing some backpacking and reviews show that these are very light so thats got to be a plus? 

 

So to recap my rant. If she is happy with the pair she has now should I get her a new pair purely for powder (100+ underfoot) or will these Rockettes be sufficient for a good skier new to powder? 

post #2 of 15
Thread Starter 

Did I say the wrong thing or break some sort of forum rule? Just really need help getting the right ski for my girlfriend and figured someone on this site might be able to help. 

post #3 of 15
Probably, nobody has replied because it's almost an impossible question.

It's hard enough for me to pick the right ski for myself. It's just too hard to guess second hand what somebody else needs. To be honest, the best thing you could do, IMO, if you want to get her skis would be to get her a gift card to a ski shop.

If nothing else, rent her a couple of different pairs first, and then buy the ones she likes.
post #4 of 15

Welcome to Epic.  I can't really say anything about that ski, but in general an 86mm ski will be better in powder conditions than 73mm.  I'm also betting the Rockette is a softer ski than what she currently has should also help some.  I know if I lived there, I wouldn't probably want anything less than 100mm.  But, I would suggest talking to some female skiers at Alyeska, including some female instructors and find out what they recommend as an all-around ski.  I'll try to nudge/kick somebody, a female, over here.

post #5 of 15

I try not to offer too much advice on these things, but I will say that there are a fair number of women on Skidiva.com who LOVE the Salomon Rockette's. Based on what you've said about her skill and size, you seem to be on the right track. At her size, 86 should give her plenty of float save for a day where there is more than 18". She MIGHT be better off on something a tad longer, but I'll let others weigh in on that. 

 

Another ski I'd recommend is the Blizzard Black Pearl in a 159. Light, nimble, enough float at 88 under foot, and FUN FUN FUN! I own them and have for 3 seasons now.

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the responses. I have also looked at ski divas and they def seem to love the rockette over there. I got the Rockettes for only $260 brand new so I guess Ill just give them to her and let her make the final decision. I understand everything is opinion, I was just hoping to show her this forum to give her a little more information about the ski and what people with more experience riding bigger mtns with different conditions than we are used to have to say. 


Edited by OverMyHead - 12/16/13 at 1:01pm
post #7 of 15
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post #8 of 15
Well if she's happy with what she has, why not a pow ski? How many pow days in Alaska will you ski?
Right now, you're going the path of replacing her daily ski. Can't go wrong with Black Pearls, I don't know about the Rockettes probably fine also if everyone loves them.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 

Ya see I am not sure this is our first season up here so I am basing everything on what people have told me. We both have Fridays off so we will ride just about every Friday but cant really blow off school and work as much as we would love to for a pow day. So according to Alyeska the top of the resort averages over 600 inches a year and is a heavier wet snow. That being said the stuff we were in the other day was the lightest stuff I have ever seen and I could blow it off my truck. I have also heard that the lower portion of the resort gets less and from what I have seen from the couple trips I have taken this year is mostly groomers more like back home in the NE. That is why I was leaning towards something she would be comfortable on everywhere. 

 

Now I feel like I am just over thinking this and trying to make a decision that is her's to make. But again thanks for any input I really appreciate it. 

post #10 of 15

I have an all mountain ski but it really doesn't handle well in powder over 4 to 5 inches.   I demo 100 underfoot and it handled real well in 8 to 10" of powder.

 

But with anything I would never purchase skis with trying out first.   A lot of places are doing demo days this month, you might want to check that out.  If not the gift certificate as mentioned above is a great idea.

 

 

good luck

post #11 of 15

Oh, so you already bought the Rockettes, and for $260? Screamin' deal! Let us know how she likes them!

post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 

Ya I walked into Sports Authority to buy some long underwear (it was -11 when I got up that morning) and walked out with a pair of purple skis. Didnt get any long underwear couldnt afford it haha. They are called priorities. I think they were originally over $600 I could not pass that up and if she wants fatties she can put up some of her own $. 

 

PS A wise man once told me a happy girlfriend that is excited to ski means the boyfriend gets to spend more hours on the slopes. 

post #13 of 15
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Ya I walked into Sports Authority to buy some long underwear (it was -11 when I got up that morning) and walked out with a pair of purple skis. Didnt get any long underwear couldnt afford it haha. They are called priorities. I think they were originally over $600 I could not pass that up and if she wants fatties she can put up some of her own $. 

 

PS A wise man once told me a happy girlfriend that is excited to ski means the boyfriend gets to spend more hours on the slopes. 


What a boyfriend, you gave up your comfort for her skis. You are on the right track. Hopefully you gets lots of mileage together on the slopes.

post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by OverMyHead View Post
 

How is everyone doing? New to the site and have found a good amount of information on here already but like my name says I am in over my head. I am just going to come out and say it... Yes, I am a knuckle dragger (a term my father and the old guys use for snowboarders). I have been doing a lot of research to get my girl friend the perfect ski to make her happy and I have come across the 2013 Salomon Rockette. It is labelled as an all mountain ski and are 153 length with dimensions 130-86-114. She is about 5 foot 2 130 pounds (maybe lighter I am not really sure) and is a very experienced skier that could use a little work on her technique. 

 

So this is where things get interesting. We are from MA and would ride Sunday River almost every weekend until this year when we moved to Anchorage AK. Right now she rides some hand me downs from her brother that are also 153 and 73 underfoot. She does fine on them but last year had a lot of trouble in the couple of powder days we got to ride. Here is my question, is the 86 underfoot going to help her in powder or should I get her something 100 underfoot and she can ride her old skis when its not a powder day?

 

My research has shown that the rocker tips will help her stay up in the snow but the skinner midsection will allow her to also ride the lower part of Alyeska (the resort here in AK) where she will run into groomers, mashed potatoes, ice, and bumps. We are also interested in doing some backpacking and reviews show that these are very light so thats got to be a plus? 

 

So to recap my rant. If she is happy with the pair she has now should I get her a new pair purely for powder (100+ underfoot) or will these Rockettes be sufficient for a good skier new to powder? 


Based on this entire post, I think you're on the right track with the Rockette.  Its a great all mountain ski that will be great for her, and when you get to Alaska, she can demo some serious powder skis and get something regionally appropriate once she get sorted out up there. 

 

From my own experience, I thought I had what I wanted and needed for skis when I moved to Tahoe from Michigan, but I ended up changing the type of powder ski once I moved here because the consistency of the powder is different. 

 

Hope we've helped a little so that you're not in over your head.

 

BTW, the Rockette you're describing was one of the most popular women's skis in that line up last year and is fazed out now, so get it while you can.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for the input can't wait to give them to her. I'll let you all know how it goes
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