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post #31 of 41
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No. No it's not. I'm not sure where you got your ideas about all liberals everywhere, but insulting people's intelligence is not a liberal tendency. It's a human tendency, because it's easier to dismiss someone else's ideas if you can convince others that he's stupid.

I'm not sure what you mean by liberals, but I'm left of center and like to think I'm not condescending, a pseudo-intellectual, or that I go around feeling superior and insulting people's intelligence. I may get self-righteous sometimes, but most of us including you get that way at one point or another. You've read my posts; you can decide for yourself if I belong in this homogeneous group of useless, offensive idiots you call "liberals."

A-man, you've taught me a ton of great stuff, and I hope to lean on you a lot more for technical tips and gear advice. But living in Utah I have to endure a lot of broad offensive stereotyping of anyone who's not far right (note that Utahns in general aren't far right; it's our politicians who play that card). So I hope you'll understand why it pushes a button when someone randomly insults my character, even if he doesn't mean to.

And that's all I mean to post about politics on this thread. I really, really don't want to get any further into it on this forum. It's so poisonous, and I'm a wimp, so I stay away from the subject any time I can.



Edited to remove unnecessary stuff.

LB, Seriously,  thanks for the thoughtful post. I like you........................Spindrift............Nope!

post #32 of 41

iheart, lots of info (and mis-info), maybe too much.

 

Here's my minimalist approach.  You need an iron, maybe an old non-steam iron, or a steam iron covered with aluminum foil, or a low cost waxing iron (or high cost if you want).  Universal wax.  Paper towels.  Rubber bands from broccoli or asparagus to hold the brakes out of the way.

 

Heat the iron to the point where it melts the wax but doesn't smoke.  Hold the iron above the ski base, sole of the iron vertical, point down.  Touch the wax bar to the iron sole and dribble wax on the ski base.  Iron the wax into the base.  Never stop moving the iron.  If the other side of the ski gets warm, you've kept the iron on the ski too long.  Never stop moving the iron.  Fold the paper towel and hold it in your other hand.  Re-melt the wax and wipe it off as fast as you melt it.  Get all the excess wax off the surface; the wax will be in the pores of the base, if the base has pores.  Let the skis cool.  Ski.  Have fun.  You don't even need to wipe off the excess, but your first few feet on the snow after waxing will feel like glue.  That's OK, too; the excess will ski off.  There are better ways to wax to gain a few hundredths of a second on your favorite run.  Do that if you prefer.

post #33 of 41
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
 

iheart, lots of info (and mis-info), maybe too much.

 

Here's my minimalist approach.  You need an iron, maybe an old non-steam iron, or a steam iron covered with aluminum foil, or a low cost waxing iron (or high cost if you want).  Universal wax.  Paper towels.  Rubber bands from broccoli or asparagus to hold the brakes out of the way.

 

Heat the iron to the point where it melts the wax but doesn't smoke.  Hold the iron above the ski base, sole of the iron vertical, point down.  Touch the wax bar to the iron sole and dribble wax on the ski base.  Iron the wax into the base.  Never stop moving the iron.  If the other side of the ski gets warm, you've kept the iron on the ski too long.  Never stop moving the iron.  Fold the paper towel and hold it in your other hand.  Re-melt the wax and wipe it off as fast as you melt it.  Get all the excess wax off the surface; the wax will be in the pores of the base, if the base has pores.  Let the skis cool.  Ski.  Have fun.  You don't even need to wipe off the excess, but your first few feet on the snow after waxing will feel like glue.  That's OK, too; the excess will ski off.  There are better ways to wax to gain a few hundredths of a second on your favorite run.  Do that if you prefer.


Bonk!   When the ski feels warm on the other side tips and tails that's good.   Always scrape and brush the skis a lot.  Any wax left on the ski will slow the ski.  Any wax left on the ski will grab the dirt and junk and make it even slower.

post #34 of 41
Your right, a lot of good and bad and not so good and not so bad info.

I like SoftSnowGuy's approch, its fine for most people. Heck I don't worry if theres a little wax left on the bases. I'm not racing and it will ski off over time.

My skis are fast that is no doubt about that.

After the wax cools, I'll scrap off most of it, then use the nylon rotor brush and go up/down the base in about 12" area's, then do 3 full tip to tail passes, one left of center, one right of center, one down the middle. I'll use a horse hair brush if the snow is colder.

Of course that was after making sure the bases were flat , then doing the edges, then wax.
post #35 of 41
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LB, Seriously,  thanks for the thoughtful post. I like you........................Spindrift............Nope!
Nobody said we have like everybody--thank heavens! spit.gif But as stuck in his ideas as he is, Spindrift is far from the most, er, uh, abrasive character on the forums.
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

I like SoftSnowGuy's approch, its fine for most people. Heck I don't worry if theres a little wax left on the bases. I'm not racing and it will ski off over time.

My skis are fast that is no doubt about that.

After the wax cools, I'll scrap off most of it, then use the nylon rotor brush and go up/down the base in about 12" area's, then do 3 full tip to tail passes, one left of center, one right of center, one down the middle. I'll use a horse hair brush if the snow is colder.
I'm new to the whole DIY ski maintenance thing, so I still brush and brush and brush--by hand, and two of my three brushes are rectangular--just for the sheer entertainment value of seeing how long before my glide starts to deteriorate. I would have thought that amount of roto-brushing would remove all the wax. Now I feel less behind-the-times about doing it by hand. biggrin.gif
post #36 of 41

"I'm new to the whole DIY ski maintenance thing, so I still brush and brush and brush--by hand, and two of my three brushes are rectangular--just for the sheer entertainment value of seeing how long before my glide starts to deteriorate. I would have thought that amount of roto-brushing would remove all the wax. Now I feel less behind-the-times about doing it by hand."

 

Hand brushing is awesome.  You can't over do it.  Brush really good to remove all surface wax and make it glide the best.  When you think you are done brushing, then brush some more! :beercheer: 

 

Edit:  BTW even if you don't wax that day always brush out the ski really good.  It will help immensely to keep the ski clean and gliding well.  Clean is fast.

post #37 of 41
Jacques, IMO your way over doing it.

After I scrap, the whole brushing process takes me may be 3 minutes to do both skis. I only brush after waxing. With the nice snow we've had, I haven't waxed in may be 8 or 9 skis day''s.

Each time I ski, that afternoon I run the 100 grit diamond stone up/down the edge 3 or 4 times. wipe the ski with a old towel and put it away till the next ski day. I can do both skis in less then 5 minutes.

My skis have 100 day's, never been to a shop, and have great edge hold. I have demoed 2014 Kendo's and they feel the same as my 3 y/o Kendo's.

Hey if it works for you, keep doing it.
post #38 of 41
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

Jacques, IMO your way over doing it.

After I scrap, the whole brushing process takes me may be 3 minutes to do both skis. I only brush after waxing. With the nice snow we've had, I haven't waxed in may be 8 or 9 skis day''s.

Each time I ski, that afternoon I run the 100 grit diamond stone up/down the edge 3 or 4 times. wipe the ski with a old towel and put it away till the next ski day. I can do both skis in less then 5 minutes.

My skis have 100 day's, never been to a shop, and have great edge hold. I have demoed 2014 Kendo's and they feel the same as my 3 y/o Kendo's.

Hey if it works for you, keep doing it.

You are under doing it.  You are waxing all the dirt and pollutants into the ski because you are not brushing first or hot scraping etc.  All that really matters though is that you are happy with your skis.  You don't need to please anyone else.   And yes it works for me very well.  My people are very stoked too.

post #39 of 41
Yep all is good, not many people I ski with can keep up with me when I go for speed, or when gliding on the flats. May be its the Dominator Hyperzoom...
post #40 of 41
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity View Post

Yep all is good, not many people I ski with can keep up with me when I go for speed, or when gliding on the flats. May be its the Dominator Hyperzoom...


Hyper Zoom kills it for sure.  Now brush them out everyday!  Like you say, just a 3 minute job for cleaning.  I'm going skiing.  First sun we have had in a long time!

post #41 of 41
Enjoy your day, I'm jealous, can't ski this weekend, GF has a family thing in Maine.
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