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New to skiing, will these fit together? [Canada on a budget]

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 

hey there! So, i'm totally new to skiing, ive done it before but years ago and am now wanting to get back into it, on my previous skiing trips ive always just rented gear but now i would like to own my own pair. i'm on a slight budget so this is the set-up ive found/want only issue is i dont know if they will fit/work together.. any help/answer would be great!! thanks for reading : )

 

skies - http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-Atomic-Smoke-LT-157-cm-Mens-Ski-with-J-XTO-10-Binding-/201002551097?pt=Skiing&hash=item2eccaf8739&_uhb=1

 

boots - http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Atomic-B-Tech-65-Ski-Boots-Men-Sz-10-5-28-5-Black-Grey-Brand-New-/251393186964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a88339c94&_uhb=1

 

i'm trying to stay colour-coordinated (ish) and trying to buy items in canada (new/used) as i hate paying for customs when buying out of canada. 

post #2 of 20
100% of the forum is going to tell you to buy the boots and get fitted by a GOOD boot fitter. Spend the money on the right boots and continue renting skis.

And, to hell with color coordination. You must be trolling or something.
post #3 of 20
^^^^^ What Sibhusky said. If you're gonna spend $450, spend it at a good boot fitter. If you're feet aren't comfortable and your boots don't fit properly, your skiing experience will suffer. Rent or demo skis until you get more experience and figure out what kind of skier you are.

And welcome to Epic Ski!
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by Josh Micfab View Post
 

hey there! So, i'm totally new to skiing, ive done it before but years ago and am now wanting to get back into it, on my previous skiing trips ive always just rented gear but now i would like to own my own pair. i'm on a slight budget so this is the set-up ive found/want only issue is i dont know if they will fit/work together.. any help/answer would be great!! thanks for reading : )

 

skies - http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2013-Atomic-Smoke-LT-157-cm-Mens-Ski-with-J-XTO-10-Binding-/201002551097?pt=Skiing&hash=item2eccaf8739&_uhb=1

 

boots - http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Atomic-B-Tech-65-Ski-Boots-Men-Sz-10-5-28-5-Black-Grey-Brand-New-/251393186964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3a88339c94&_uhb=1

 

i'm trying to stay colour-coordinated (ish) and trying to buy items in canada (new/used) as i hate paying for customs when buying out of canada. 

Welcome to EpicSki!  How long has it been since you rented skis?  Where are you likely to ski this winter?  How often?

 

Take a look at the Articles (menu bar) for general advice for buying equipment.

post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 

well jeeze, I was serious about the colour thing >.< just personal preference one would say :p I did read a lot about boot fitting and such and before purchasing a boot was going to get my feet fitment stuff such done. Was mostly just curious since there was no information about the boot sole length (that I could see) if those boots would fit with those ski's, if that makes sense..
It's been about 2 years since my last time skiing, i've gone roughly 5-6 "seasons" always done downhill "recreational" but I would like to get into well I don't know what it would be called but backcountry/trick stuff? nothing fancy, not trying to go pro or anything just something to do during the winter season to keep fit. I like the style of the boot I linked before and the ski's in general I like so it would be nice to stick to them? And same with renting.. If I was to buy a pair, let say for the $450 range, I would get more use out of them as to having to go rent ski's at our local-ish park, ski lift ticket is about $100 for the day, $40 for boots, $65 for ski's (also the drive is about 45 mins each way, so gas is about $50 a trip) now doing that every few weekends over winter I would spend double the amount renting then if I was to buy a cheaper pair to learn, I have a beach house that's in a valley so I do have a place to go and learn for free. But! that's just how i've been thinking, just thought i'd put it out there :p I hope that makes more sense to my post! 

post #6 of 20
It's a soft beginner boot. You don't give your size, but unless you're tiny, you won't like it for long.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 

oh ya sorry! well my reg shoe size is 10, so I went with a 10.5 size chart I found which equaled to a 28.5 size rating for boots (make sense?)

post #8 of 20
Go to a trusted LSS.

Get fitted for comfort and future performance.
Some local shops have used inventory and can set you up cheap...boots and skis. You invest in them they invest in you.
Rent skis or buy used. If bought used from shop they are tested and set up properly( bindings )
post #9 of 20
.... Oh and this forum and other venues are fabulous resources. The Internet is your friend. Many links here to great YouTube material.

My beginner tips thread is pretty good for example smile.gif

Welcome!!
post #10 of 20
On the Ask The Boot Guys forum there's an article called something like "which boots are right for me" that they suggest everyone read. The reason that people say to rent skis but buy boots is that boots have much more impact on your skiing and comfort than skis will. That's one reason you got some grief about being concerned with color coordination. I mean, who knows what color boot you'll end up with?

On the other hand, how gear works has always been more important to me than what it looks like. I don't like the topsheet on my new skis, but I'm willing to forgive some girly graphics for the way they make me feel.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by Josh Micfab View Post
 

oh ya sorry! well my reg shoe size is 10, so I went with a 10.5 size chart I found which equaled to a 28.5 size rating for boots (make sense?)

Shoe sizes have almost nothing to do with ski boot sizes.  ESPECIALLY, you don't want to go LARGER.  For instance, I wear a 9.5 woman's shoe, but a mondo 25.0 boot.  But, if you look up that boot size, it equates to an 8!!!!!  You'd think I'd be crippled in boots that small.  

post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 

Ic IC! well thanks alot so far for the help sib and litter! I get where your coming from about the colour stuff now, never realllly did think about it that way once again, its just me and my personal preference with colours >.< now i'm a bit confused on your last post here sib, what all do you mean about your boot size? like what I'm confused by.. "But, if you look up that boot size, it equates to an 8!!!!!" I know that mondo is a type of measurement used for boots, and that 9.5 is your shoe size, but where did the 8 come from? like is that just another "size" of boot that you wear? (like a different way of measurement) 

post #13 of 20
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Originally Posted by Josh Micfab View Post
 

Ic IC! well thanks alot so far for the help sib and litter! I get where your coming from about the colour stuff now, never realllly did think about it that way once again, its just me and my personal preference with colours >.< now i'm a bit confused on your last post here sib, what all do you mean about your boot size? like what I'm confused by.. "But, if you look up that boot size, it equates to an 8!!!!!" I know that mondo is a type of measurement used for boots, and that 9.5 is your shoe size, but where did the 8 come from? like is that just another "size" of boot that you wear? (like a different way of measurement) 

If you go to a mondo point chart and look up what shoe size a 25.0 is, it's a woman's 8.  Now remember, for street shoes, I said I'm wearing a 9.5. BUT NOT IN SKI BOOTS.  Why? My foot is not bending, nor are the ski boots.  Ski boots need to encase your foot snuggly in order to transmit power to the ski.  If you use your street shoe size to buy ski boots, you'll get boots that are far too big to do the job.  

post #14 of 20

When you go to a shop for boots, they will always measure your feet right there first thing.  If you like, you can measure this yourself at home.  Mondo sizes are based on the metric length of your foot.  28.5, for example, is roughly* 28 and a half centimetres.  

 

Take a ruler or measuring tape and place it on the floor with one end directly up against a wall.  Stand on it with one foot, push your heel all the way up against the wall.  Measure to the end of the furthest toe.  The starting point for boot fitting is usually the nearest centimeter rounded down(-ish). 

 

*mondo shell sizes don't correspond exactly to the metric measurement for a few reasons, but it's close enough for explanation purposes.

 

The reason boot fitting is important is that ski boots fit much more precisely than casual shoes do.  It's impossible to shop around for a boot online without knowing how well your feet fit with any given manufacturer's shell shape.  They're all different and we all end up having to try a few in the store before the right one is found.  And don't agree to buy a boot you have misgivings about in the store concerning the fit.  If the fitter is rushing you, find a different store.  This is the most important gear purchase you will make for skiing and cannot be rushed.  Rushing leads to a poor fitting boot that you'll be whining about for the entire time you ski them.   

post #15 of 20
Thread Starter 

Yes will do! monday I do plan on going and getting my feet fitted prop, now do most ski/binding packages let call them, do they come pre-assembled? like bindings on skie's? or unassembled and i would have to take them in to get fitted right due to my height, boot size etc

post #16 of 20
Some skis come "flat" and you buy bindings separately; some are flat, but come with bindings as part of a package; and some are "system" bindings integrated into the ski.
post #17 of 20

Also, the shop will mount your selected bindings to your selected skis for you free of charge (if you're buying the skis there).  They will also set your bindings for your size and weight and test them to make sure they are operating properly. 

post #18 of 20
Well, he's talking about buying across the net. If they are not mounted and he takes them locally, it will not be free. And in fact there are some shops that will charge you even if you bought both pieces there. No place I go, but I've heard stories.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 

yes, sorry I should've mentioned that I was buying online, it's about $40-$60 for bindings to be fitted at my local shop, I just realized that the ski's i linked at the start of this post, said they're 157cm when i'm looking for something 170-185, so i'm back on the grind :p

post #20 of 20

Gotcha.  Happy shopping!  :)

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