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Adjusting Axial on Soul 7

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Friends, I have a question about the adjustment of the Axial bindings on my new Souls. They were mounted for my Dobermans which have a305mm sole. Since then I got a pair of Lange RX 130's which are 306mm. With my other bindings there is a screw that you turn until it is flush with the housing.But there is no such configuration with the Axials that i can see. There is a little window which has a yellow tab inside. When I click in the binding I can see a line on the yellow tab that lines up with a line on the binding housing. Sorry if the description is a bit cryptic but it is a bit difficult to describe. No can take pic because I am in the car heading to Sugarloaf for the first day of the season and to what is promised to be a big snow puke.biggrin.gif And big cold too:madThere is also no obvious way to move the heel along the track once I figure out how the terms line should orient to the binding housing. Thanks for the help.
Gracias
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Edited by deliberate1 - 12/14/13 at 6:58am
post #2 of 15

After all the legal disclaimers and warnings that you should always have bindings adjusted and tested by a certified tech, etc. etc. .......

 

.....you just might try googling: rossignol binding adjustment pdf

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the cautionary tale. But I tend to live dangerously. I have mounted my own bindings, practiced law for thirty years, raised three boys and, on occasion, I have run with knives. And sometimes I have been known to search for pdf files. Good call.
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post #4 of 15

lol. I live dangerously too....mount and adjust my own bindings, do my own brake and engine rebuilds, and am always searching for pdf's to answer the tech questions.

 

I figured that the "do not adjust binding" folks may hit hard if I did not put the disclaimer in. :rolleyes

post #5 of 15

David:

 

If I understand your description, the rossi souls were mounted with the rossi axial's (great, warranty extended with that combo) using a 305mm mount initially.  Now you're in a 306 BSL.  BTW, that Look binding has industry leading travel fore/aft and lateral.  Solid interface. 

 

To verify the accuracy of your forward pressure engage the boot and examine the yellow indicator in relation to the scribe marks on either side of the window.  What you want to see as the boot is correctly engaged in the binding is the edge of the yellow area, we'll call this the "line" appearing in the middle of the window, thus falling within the scribed marks as near dead center as possible.  In other words, the visual would be half yellow/half black filling the window...you can see this at a distance.  If not, fully unlock the binding opening completely.  Place the boot toe into the binding toe piece and drop the boot heal lug into the fully opened binding heal piece so it is snug resting against the heal.  If there is a gap or if the boot heal lug cannot make its way into the binding heal, use a flathead and place under the tab (rear of binding between rails) levering up to unlock it and move the binding in the track (small movements fore/aft) accordingly.  When you think you've nailed the fit of boot heal and binding heal interface when fully opened, press down the tab to lock the binding into the track.  Now fully engage the boot into the binding locking the boot in place.  Verify the yellow indicator "line" to the scribe marks.  Note, getting it perfectly to center is all but impossible, but if you're within the scribes and near the visual of half yellow and black appearing in the window, you're OK.

 

If a picture is necessary, let me know.  Also, you can check online and view the Look/Rossi technical manual for bindings

 

Ski well!   

post #6 of 15
One millimeter, I'm don't think you would even have readjust for that.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by Lucky View Post

One millimeter, I'm don't think you would even have readjust for that.

Agree Lucky, but that assumes the original setting for the 305 bsl was correct in the first place...
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 

Don, much obliged for the detailed explanation. The window is, indeed, half filled with the yellow marker, just as you describe. No need to mess with.

Be well and a big Maine howdo for Ms. B.

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post #9 of 15

D:

 

Just heard news from the reach you've got some goodly amount of snowfall blowing about.  Betsy's folks are on the point now...hoping for the snowplow to head down the long drive.

 

Keep posting up your adventures on the Souls.  @segbrown skied them very well the other day with us at Loveland.  In fact, I find that ski has a distinctive "sound" to it...I suppose something to do with the honeycomb interface fore/aft.

 

Enjoy!

 

D.

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
 

D:

 

Just heard news from the reach you've got some goodly amount of snowfall blowing about.  Betsy's folks are on the point now...hoping for the snowplow to head down the long drive.

 

Keep posting up your adventures on the Souls.  @segbrown skied them very well the other day with us at Loveland.  In fact, I find that ski has a distinctive "sound" to it...I suppose something to do with the honeycomb interface fore/aft.

 

Enjoy!

 

D.

Got our first wintry hit of the year, at least snow-wise. Yesterday at Sugarloaf was groomer madness on mostly man-made on MX 78's (and new Lange RX 130's). And today was a winter wonderland  with about a foot of fresh. It was an All Souls Day. A follow-up to my spring-time review is percolating.

By the way, that "sound" is not coming from the ski. It is the sound of one extended human giggle as it reverberated from Ms. S's body and off a powdery surface into your ear.

At least, that is what I hear.

Hope the plow guy got to your folks early. After a three hour drive back from Sugarloaf, it was wicked cool to turn the corner of Steamboat Rd. and find our road plowed. 

Happy trails

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post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
 

D:

 

Just heard news from the reach you've got some goodly amount of snowfall blowing about.  Betsy's folks are on the point now...hoping for the snowplow to head down the long drive.

 

Keep posting up your adventures on the Souls.  @segbrown skied them very well the other day with us at Loveland.  In fact, I find that ski has a distinctive "sound" to it...I suppose something to do with the honeycomb interface fore/aft.

 

Enjoy!

 

D.

 

I noticed that too, kind of a hollow wooden sound.

post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
 

D:

 

Just heard news from the reach you've got some goodly amount of snowfall blowing about.  Betsy's folks are on the point now...hoping for the snowplow to head down the long drive.

 

Keep posting up your adventures on the Souls.  @segbrown skied them very well the other day with us at Loveland.  In fact, I find that ski has a distinctive "sound" to it...I suppose something to do with the honeycomb interface fore/aft.

 

Enjoy!

 

D.

 

I've noticed that to.  I don't like it.  I think it has to do with the ski being light.  I may come to wish that I had chosen a ski with more mass.  So far the Souls are pretty good all around, but not great on hard groomers.  I didn't expect them to be a good hard groomer ski, so I'm not dissapointed there.  They are better than I expected on moguls.

post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
 

 

I've noticed that to.  I don't like it.  I think it has to do with the ski being light.  I may come to wish that I had chosen a ski with more mass.  So far the Souls are pretty good all around, but not great on hard groomers.  I didn't expect them to be a good hard groomer ski, so I'm not dissapointed there.  They are better than I expected on moguls.

Yes, my old Volkl Auras made a similar sound, and they were thin and light. The Aura sound was more metallic, but it definitely reminds me of this. 

 

I'm still trying to figure out if the lack of mass in the tips is good or bad. Need more time on them (and need the snow to return). They sure will be easy to hike with, though! 

post #14 of 15

I had to adjust my Axials for new boots (K2 Spyne 110 LV; gotta ski 'em more before I'm ready to review, but the first day was very encouraging...) that were a bit longer sole length.  The Rossi/Look binding manual is available in pdf online, and it said to:

 

(1) open the heel unit fully until it contacts the base (i.e., past horizontal–as far as it will go);

(2) put the boot toe into the toe unit and make sure it's fully seated there;

(3) insert a flat-blade screwdriver under the flat tab at the rear of the unit and twist it to lift the unit's engagement teeth free from their matching teeth in the base;

(4) slide the heel unit up to make contact with the heel of the boot;

(5) release the screwdriver, carefully lift the boot out, and tap the unit with the screwdriver to make sure it engages (it's easy to get tooth on tooth from the loose fit); 

(6) insert the boot normally and push down to "step in" to the binding;

(7) check to ensure that the edge of the yellow mark is somewhere in the middle of the marked range in the little window;

(8) if it's all yellow, the unit is too far back, so go through the fit-up procedure again, and try tapping the unit forward with the screwdriver after releasing the adjustment tab.

 

Bottom line: the heel of the boot should just barely clear the hold-down tab.  If there's noticeable space, the heel unit is too far back, and this will show up as all-yellow in the window.  The lift-tab/slide-unit mechanism isn't as precise as a worm screw, but the design does allow for a range of sufficiently accurate adjustment.

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DanLassen View Post
 

I had to adjust my Axials for new boots (K2 Spyne 110 LV; gotta ski 'em more before I'm ready to review, but the first day was very encouraging...) that were a bit longer sole length.  The Rossi/Look binding manual is available in pdf online, and it said to:

 

 

 

Dan, I appreciate your efforts. When I was at Sugarloaf this weekend I went into the ski  shop and was told that the binding has the right amount of tension when the window is basically half yellow, just as your directions indicate. The 1mm differential in the boot sole length was irrelevant. Window was half yellow. Good to go.

Cheers.

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