Originally Posted by borntoski683
Tog that flat footed athlete would have pressure going to the LTE of the foot. It's nothing like a ski turn.
Also this discussion is by no means ONLY about the feet. It's about our whole body and what we have to do to be in balance while tipping and skiing on our edges. Ok you don't want to fess up to the fact pressure is felt on the edge of your foot, as in the corner. Not exclusively the bottom and not exclusively the sides. The edge. But that is minutiae you have latched onto to avoid the greater discussion about whole body activities required to be balanced on that BTE of the foot. It's not the same as walking, not even close, even if there are a few components which share some aspects. It is a unique set of movement patterns that are not in our DNA, and has to he learned
Nice. I like the observation that the pressure would be mostly on the outside, little toe side of the foot. Definitely a difference.
What's up with the "fess up" business? We're having quite a conversation all about the body in the ma spinal..thread.
You're the one that for years has refused to acknowledge one can turn simply by letting the body go downhill over the feet. Or are you ok with that now?
The "nothing like a ski turn" comment. Right, because when we ski suddenly we're alien creatures that have invented new ways of moving the body that's "not in our DNA".
Not in the DNA? I think that would be better off just phrased that the movement patterns are unique in skiing. Let's leave the whole "DNA" thing out. The body can't do anything it can't do. We're not birds. So everything we do is in our DNA.
The movements aren't that different than other activities, just the way they're put together. Unique to skiing would be the forces maybe that one deals with and how they shift in time.
We certainly have not "evolved" over the last 100 years of skiing and now our bodies are different.
What do you think is more dynamic? Playing say half court basketball, or skiing?
Skiing, particularly at the lower levels, takes place in slow motion from the bodies standpoint. That's the hardest thing for beginners, they try to move too much. It changes as one gets more advanced. Slight movements might need to be done quickly or large movements of the body into space.
You make skiing sound as if it's some incredibly difficult thing that no human could do without reinventing itself.
Psiman can make turns and that's an inanimate object. Essentially a parallelogram. Goes down the hill turning left and right. Has no problem with that.
A Stupid Object Goes Skiing. Completely lacking DNA:
Yes, getting really good at skiing isn't easy but neither is getting really good at soccer, football, tennis, and running track. Apparently though, all those are in our DNA whereas skiing is totally different.
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RGIII making a little toe turn on the inside leg. Nice angulation too.
Of course it's not the same as skiing, but it ain't that different.
How about learning this movement pattern? Pretty simple, the timing and the details are not. Miss that toe pull up/heel thrust by a fraction and it's all for naught. No new DNA needed.
Real Life Alien. Allen Johnson does a hurdle:
Interesting in that similar to skiing, the body is projected in the air in front of the stance foot. Skiing has gravity to use and forces released from a turn to propel the body.
Ted Ligety going at it. Body way out into space ahead of the stance foot. Similar to frame 3 or 4 from left above.
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Alien abduction or creation?:
Here's a 10 year old girl that jumps hurdles like a horse. Just trained herself in new movement patterns. Same DNA.
This is way harder than skiing. So what, she's actually part horse?
Skiers do all sorts of weird things to train for skiing.
Alien Julia Mancuso trains for skiing. What does this have to do with skiing? Guess nothing. Yep, when she gets back on the hill, she'll rev up that other body with the skiing DNA stored in the garage and get to it.
This is NOTHING like skiing. Or is it? So a world class skier is just wasting time training....