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I Won a $500 Credit at a Ski Shop!! Which Skis to Buy? [New Zealand]

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Hi guys I won a credit of 500 dollars and can buy anything on their website www.basenz.com and would live to get some skis even if I need to top up to get them. I can't get down there to try any as they in the bottom of the country, so recommendations please ? For those who don't know me u am an internediate skier who thinks he...me would like to ski the whole mountain one ski quiver! I am 200 lbs and 180cm tall so have a look at their website and give me your best opinion? Thanks. I like the rossignol 98 and soul 7 cheers.
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Hi guys I won a credit of 500 dollars and can buy anything on their website www.basenz.com and would live to get some skis even if I need to top up to get them. I can't get down there to try any as they in the bottom of the country, so recommendations please ? For those who don't know me u am an internediate skier who thinks he...me would like to ski the whole mountain one ski quiver! I am 200 lbs and 180cm tall so have a look at their website and give me your best opinion? Thanks. I like the rossignol 98 and soul 7 cheers.

Two totally different skis.  Not really on the same shopping list.  If you are an intermediate, and I had to choose between those two only, I'd say that you'd probably like the Soul 7 better (only because I'd scratch the E98 off your list entirely - too much ski for an intermediate).  But there are plenty of great skis under 100mm in the ~98 or ~88 categories that you might like better than either as a one ski quiver.  What do you have now?  What do you like? Where do you ski?

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I have never owned a pair of skis and I like to ski predominantly groomers but but like to venture off trail, I ski mount ruapehu north island New Zealand which doesn't have deep powder mainly icy conditions but font want anything too thin I would like a. 88 or 90 maybe? Have a look on the website I posted a link up it and see their range it seems pretty limited but my credit is with shop
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Is the Soul 7 any good on groomers?

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Why do you say Experience 98 is too much ski for an intermediate? would I grow into them? or just too advanced?

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I have never owned a pair of skis and I like to ski predominantly groomers but but like to venture off trail, I ski mount ruapehu north island New Zealand which doesn't have deep powder mainly icy conditions but font want anything too thin I would like a. 88 or 90 maybe? 

Based on what you wrote, why are you focusing on the Soul 7 and the E98?  They are popular skis that have been favorably reviewed, but neither is ideally suited to your needs.  Of the two, the latter would be closest, but it still misses the target.


Edited by Pacobillie - 12/11/13 at 5:12am
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What about this one comes with bindings, it has a 98 waist and a length of 180cm ?

 

http://www.basenz.com/snow/ski-shop/mens-skis/all-mountain-skis/rossignol-sin-7-ex-demo-ski-2014.html

 

I am also thinking maybe buy the most popular with my credit and sell it for cash or use a trade-in??

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What about this one comes with bindings, it has a 98 waist and a length of 180cm ?

 

http://www.basenz.com/snow/ski-shop/mens-skis/all-mountain-skis/rossignol-sin-7-ex-demo-ski-2014.html

 

I am also thinking maybe buy the most popular with my credit and sell it for cash or use a trade-in??


For how you describe your skiing and where you ski, the Sin 7 is a better idea than either the Soul 7 or the E98 imo.  I have ridden the E98 and the Soul 7, not the Sin 7, so I am guessing a bit, but based on how the Soul rides, I think that it would be a very good choice for you.  Some will likely say that it is not uber stable at speed, but how fast are you hitting groomers, how precise and powerful is your technique - honestly? 

 

The Soul 7 is a very nice ski that is pretty good on the groomed for a 106 underfoot.  I think that it is a ski with a really wide performance range - so while more advanced skiers will love it, it could also work for an intermediate because it is pretty compliant and the shape makes for very intuitive turning.  It has a crisp, smooth, glassy feel.  The hype is merited - it is a very good, well-designed ski that will appeal broadly.  And relative to some of the other skis that have been hyped around here, with the Soul 7 hype is less pernicious because in practice it is a ski that will make sense and be fun in more places for many more skiers.  I think that it would work as a OSQ for someone in the western U.S. who mostly skis off piste, but it would be better if paired up with something more front side oriented for really firm days.  It also skis super short, so at your size/level you'd be on the line, but probably leaning 188 - and that seems to me like a lot of ski for an intermediate to manage as a OSQ. 

 

The E98 is another story entirely.  More like Rossi does Volkl.  It is a stiff, powerful ski that requires some mass and some technique to manage.  It is a very good ski on groomers (maybe the best 98 I have tried on hardpack), but you need to know how to work a ski to get anything out of it.  So I don't thing that it is a great choice for an intermediate just skidding around because the ski (probably because of the big tip), really drives into a turn and the shape in the tail doesn't enable you to easily wash the turn out and slave.  I see the E98 as the ~98 for those with strong technical skills (ex-racers, on-mountain pros) who are pretty big, like to rip groomers with classic technique and still migrate all over the mountain in anything under 6".  It is a strong ski.  High macho factor - but you want to be realistic about what makes sense for you.  For what you are looking for, you could get the same or better groomer performance in an easier package that won't punish you so much and will make off-piste skiing easier (for where you are at).  If you were to buy it, it skis true to length - 180 is your size.

 

Of the new Rossis, the Sin 7 makes more sense for your ski reality because it would be more versatile and cover most of what you are doing at your local hill.  I'd get advice from the shop on size (either the demos in 180 or new and flat in 188; without the benefit of a demo, I'd lean 180 for you in a 98 underfoot - your weight says 188, but your height is on the line, and your level says 180). 

 

Also, the pickings on that website in your size are pretty lean - maybe the K2 Rictor 90 in 177 would be a good call, well tuned for what you really do. . . I haven't skied it but it is getting great reviews and K2s typically have a pretty large sweet spot.  That feels like a more likely candidate for a ski that you'd "grow into" as opposed to the E98 which would probably be a workout.

 

Given the limited pickings and your $500 credit to burn on that particular site, I think that I'd either pick up the K2s, the Sin 7 or maybe just get the Soul 7 in 188 for soft snow days (mainly because it is cool) and worry about a front side ski later.

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I live down here in the Antipodes, and demo a lot of skis. Earlier this year I managed to demo the K2 Rictor 82ti, the Sin7, the Experience 83 and the Experience 88 (but not the 98 - it wasn't being demoed). The selection of skis on the site you've provided is an interesting mix of wider, off piste oriented skis, most of which are not going to suit your needs at present. With you skiing largely on piste, with occasional forays into the off piste, I wouldn't be looking at anything wider than 90 in the waist. In fact you'd likely be better served down nearer 80mm.

The Experience 98 is wide, stiff and likely too much ski. Move on.

The Sin7 is an impressive, versatile ski for what it is, but I wouldn't choose it as my one and only ski for our local conditions. It carves nicely when the snow is soft enough to set an edge, but it doesn't deal with our refrozen groomers as well as many other skis, and it's pretty lively in junky, cut up crud. It would be a good choice as a versatile second ski for new/soft snow days hereabouts, but not as your only ski. Move on.

The Rictor 82 was lighter in weight than I expected, a little more lively than I expected from a K2 ski, more torsionally stiff than I perhaps expected (not having spent any time on K2 skis previously) and represented a very good option as an all mountain ski locally. A friend of mine owns and runs a ski store here in Sydney and was on that ski all week. He was impressed with it. He provided the same ski to a friend of his (an intermediate skier) for the week and he was in love with it after two or three turns. The Rictor 90 is a good option, although it's targeting off piste conditions a little more than the Rictor 82. I note the starthaus crew are stocking the Rictor 90 this year, so it passes muster with Phil and Jim which is a good sign. They're one of the more expensive skis on the site, but haggle with them on price and I bet you can get a deal.

Similarly, the K2 AMP 80X in 177cm would be a good choice if you're looking for a more groomer-oriented ski.

As an all mountain ski down here Rossi's Experience series is a very good choice. A lot of the ski patrol at Thredbo are on the E83, likely as a result of a good Pro deal from Rossignol. Either the 83 or 88 would work for you if you could arrange for BaseNZ to get some in. The E88 is more ski than the E83 - it has a full phenol sidewall, whereas the 83 has a partial sidewall/partial cap - and I reckon the 178 would be a terrific choice for what you're after. The site has a relationship with Rossi, so get in touch and see if they can order you one in.

Good luck.
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Hi decided not to buy skis today but rather get the other stuff I need like the Anon or Smith goggles a Burton jacket etc.... and just rent the better skis you can ask for but I am still getting new custom boots saved some money for that already. Thanks

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