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Not sure how many Bozeman area skiers are out there, but I just wanted to let you know that there will be a showing of UPII Nov. 8 at the Emerson Cultural Center, 7:00 p.m. $6 at the door.
post #2 of 12
See you there!
post #3 of 12
So what did you guys think?
post #4 of 12

i thought it sucked.

lousy soundtrack, mediocre skiing.

i would think there were at least a dozen people in the audience who could out ski the folks in the film.

The only outstanding parts were some of the tricks. Unfortunately, most of the airs ended with either a edit before the landing or someone landing on their ass. Looked like Schmidty from the mid 80's.

Nice to see someone doing a tele movie, but the Prijon kayak trailer before hand really kicked UPII's ass.
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I actually thought it was a big improvement over tha first movie. Some of the AK lines that Frode skis are quite impressive, and the jibbin' is starting to catch up to the alpine world.

ridgehiker, it obviously was not the best movie in the world, but at least they put out the effort to make one. If you think you could make a film with better skiing, then do it. Personally I don't think you could.
post #6 of 12
Ridgehiker - that's exactly how I felt about the first one.

It's cool someone is making a movie about it... but there is a long way to go.

MT - what's up your ass? You would think you personally made the movie.
post #7 of 12
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Nothing is up my ass, I'm just giving you a reality check. For every 200 people that will sit around and bitch about a movie, ther is usually only 1 person who actually has the balls to go out and make one. Do you even know how much work is associated with making a movie? The logistics alone are overwhelming. The thing about tele movies, is that they are in their infant stage. Instead of speaking badly of them, you should applaud the fact that they are being made. If you don't like the cliff drops, then go out and stomp some 60' air with a grab. If you don't like the skiing, then go out a charge some steep lines. Capture it all on film and either send it in to show them how it's done, or make your own movie. Bitching about it on an internet forum won't change the situation.
post #8 of 12
I don't think anyone was upset about the fact they are making tele movies - the recognition of the sport is great. I for one would love to see more movies about telemarking. But the movie (and I can't speak for the second one) sucked. Just becuase the made a movie about tele doesn't mean I have to like it. So are you not critical about any movies just because of the production that goes into them? How about sports ... your favorite team plays a bad game and you don't yell at the tv and bitch about them?? The only people in your mind qualified to express opinions on things are people who could do better? They are making a movie for the public's entertainment - therefore the public can express their opinions on it.
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MT, I am glad to see someone making tele movies. And I'll pay my $6 again next year to see the next one and support them. I have no intention of making movies, and i dont recall saying i could do better. But I don't think it would be all that hard for someone to do a better one.

I didn't run right home to diss the movie. I kept my mouth shut until AC asked what i thought of it. And then i answered honestly.

The AK footage was the best part of the movie, if the whole thing had shown skiing like that, i would have been pleased.

By the way, did anyone land a 60' drop in UPII??
post #10 of 12
Hmm, interesting reading your comments. I thought the movie was great. Perhaps not the ultimate demonstration of what freeheel skiers are capable of, but a lot of fun with some excellent skiing even if it is not the most extreme.

I did think there was a little to much of the non-skiing stuff, like that WWII opening was way too much, but when it got back on the snow, I loved watching the movie and ordered a copy.

I have skied with two of the guys in the movie and can tell you there is a translation problem on film. What I mean by this is that these guys are unbelievably good telemarkers and when they rip down the hill, mouths drop open and every head on the chairlift above turns and follows them down the mountain. Watching these same guys in the movie, the same stuff that blows people away in real life did look a lot more tame and conventional. The slopes look flatter, the skiing movements look less dramatic. So, there it is difficult to truly capture the full style of a skier on film.

Anyway, I thought the movie was a lot of fun. Just my take.
post #11 of 12
Freefall .. do you think that was due to the production of the film? And I don't mean to disrespect the guys who made it.. just wondering. I think the problem most people (and this is limited to the guys I tele with and have seen the movies, so ...) have with the movie is that it looks like anyone could do it.
post #12 of 12
I think that a lot of it has to do with the filming. I think the guys who made UP were knew to filmmaking last year, and did a very good job in light of that. It takes time to learn what translates well to film and what does not, even if it looks good in real life. For example, some angles make fairly easy terrain look impressive, others make impressive terrain look weak. Same goes for skiing styles.

But more importantly, the more established ski movie groups (TGR, MSP, WM) all shoot way more film than UP. UP made the decision to make a 16mm film, which they had to do to be taken seriously and make the film quality look professional. But 16mm film is EXTREMELY expensive. With their very limited budget, they couldn't shoot anything near what the companies that they are being compared to shoot. I'll bet TGR and MSP shoot 20 or 30 times as much film, and that all comes down to sponsors and money. Building a track record gets you closer to the money, so hopefully UP can build their budget each year.
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