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Stowe Demo Day, Dec. 7th -- mostly ~80mm-waisted skis

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Stowe had a demo day on Saturday.  I didn't realize it was being held until I got to the mountain, but once I realized it was being held, I happily partook in the fun.  I skied most things for only two runs.  Conditions were firm (i.e., Eastern firm) groomers and fairly icy bumps.

 

Me:  6'2", 175 pounds, level 8.5 or so.  I like skis with some "pop" and playfulness to them.

 

  • Kastle FX84, 176cm:  This has been reviewed a lot here on Epic.  I found it to be really nimble -- I could effortlessly transition from short to medium to long radius turns.  I didn't feel a whole lot of energy coming out of the turn.  Oodles of edge grip.  It took until the second trip through the bumps before I figured out how to ski it in bumps.  I felt it was a good, if not spectacular, bump ski.  Definitely worth another demo once more of the mountain opens up.
  • Kastle MX83, 173cm:  If you tend to view the mountain as a GS race course, this is your ski.  I was having way too much fun railing medium to large to larger radius turns to bother taking it into bumps.  Short turns felt like a lot of work.  One newly opened trail was covered in death marbles and ice and I just flew down it.  The transitions between different snow conditions just disappeared under my feet.  If there's a speed limit, it's way, way, way above mine.  I'd never purchase it, but for those that like swallowing up big chunks of vertical in a hurry -- it's worth a look.
  • Blizzard Brahma, 173cm.  Wow.  (Full disclosure:  I own the Brahma's little brother, the Bushwacker -- same shape, same length, different construction).  It is often said that you can't have a ski that carves and handles bumps, as the requirements of the two are too different.  Well, now you can.  They hook up beautifully in the top of a carved turn and yet the edge can be released oh-so-easily in bumps.  They have a tremendous amount of energy coming out of the turn.  I could do nothing wrong on this ski.  Just an awesome ride.
  • Head Rev 85, 170cm.  And then after trying the Brahma, I tried this.  I just couldn't figure this ski out -- no energy, no nothing from the ski.  I had a horrible time with this in the bumps -- the tails just kept getting caught.  Like I said, I just couldn't figure this ski out.  I was probably skiing it too short, but the "other" length I'd have considered was out, and after a pretty negative experience, I wasn't terribly interested in trying it again.
  • Rossi Experience 88, 170cm.  It wasn't exactly a bright sunshiny day, but right when I went to demo this, the light really went flat, to the point that I couldn't see much of anything.  I skied this pretty tentatively, so it's probably not a very fair test.  The most that I could really tell was that it was a nice, dependable, "no surprises" type ski.  I think the sweet spot on this ski extends the entire length of the ski.  Very easy going, but then again -- I was taking it easy.  Probably not going to bother demo-ing it again given how much I liked the Brahma.
  • Rossi Soul 7, 180cm.  This was really a totally unfair test.  Trails were totally scraped down hockey rinks.  I was mostly curious to see how bad powder skis are on ice, and I got my answer.  Bad.  It wasn't bad to the point of "I'm going to die", but yeah...  not my ski.  At least not under those conditions.
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Interesting that you felt that way about the MX83 (especially since you only skied it in a 173), as it is marketed as more of a slalom carver, with the MX78 being marketed as the true GS style carver.  Is there a reason you skied everything relatively short (maybe the reps didn't bring many longer skis?)

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Kevin's length choices seem sensible to me. He is a bit of a beanpole.
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Interesting that you felt that way about the MX83 (especially since you only skied it in a 173), as it is marketed as more of a slalom carver, with the MX78 being marketed as the true GS style carver.  Is there a reason you skied everything relatively short (maybe the reps didn't bring many longer skis?)

 

The longer lengths in the Rossi Experience and the Head Rev 85 were out when I swung by the tent.  Neither one really stood out as something that I wanted to spend more time on, so I didn't bother trying the longer lengths.

 

I'd be interested in trying the Brahma in its longer length once more of the mountain opens up.

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Interesting that you felt that way about the MX83 (especially since you only skied it in a 173), as it is marketed as more of a slalom carver, with the MX78 being marketed as the true GS style carver.  Is there a reason you skied everything relatively short (maybe the reps didn't bring many longer skis?)


I too felt like the MX83 had a more versatile turn shape than say the MX78, which has a distinct GS feel to it in the 176. And I skied the MX83 in the 183 length. If I had skied the 173, I'm thinking it would of had even more of a slalom feel to it. The only reason I didn't buy one is that the 176 MX78 that I previously owned felt a little short in the 176, so I wasn't going to buy the MX83 any shorter than that. But I didn't feel the need to be skiing the MX83 in the 183 length either. If they offered it in a 178, I would most likely have bought one.  

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There will be another demo fest at Killington next Tuesday and Wednesday, the 17th and 18th. Say "hi" if you're there!

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Interesting that you felt that way about the MX83 (especially since you only skied it in a 173), as it is marketed as more of a slalom carver, with the MX78 being marketed as the true GS style carver.  Is there a reason you skied everything relatively short (maybe the reps didn't bring many longer skis?)

I think that may be more due to the length than anything else.  The same guy will probably ski the MX78 in 176/178, it has 4.5cm or so more running length than an MX83 in 173cm.  TR is really similar.  That is always why the MX83 felt quicker to me; it was the shorter length.  The MX78 in 168cm doesn't feel like a GS at all. 

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There will be another demo fest at Killington next Tuesday and Wednesday, the 17th and 18th. Say "hi" if you're there!


I was planning on heading up for that, but that is PSIA week at Killington, so it will probably be crazy busy. It will probably be next to impossible to get to try the models you want. I think I'm going to hit the demo going on at Sunapee this weekend. Should be a little more low key.

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I think that may be more due to the length than anything else.  The same guy will probably ski the MX78 in 176/178, it has 4.5cm or so more running length than an MX83 in 173cm.  TR is really similar.  That is always why the MX83 felt quicker to me; it was the shorter length.  The MX78 in 168cm doesn't feel like a GS at all. 

 

 

Interesting that you say that Dawg.  I had just always heard the MX83 described as more of a slalom carver, but what you're saying makes sense.  I knew that the radiuses of the two skis were similar, but I thought the difference was more in feel.  I skied the MX78 in a 176 earlier today (I'm a bigger guy at 6'2'' 195 lbs) and found it to have a slight preference to longer turns, but not an overwhelming one.  It was equally as impressive in short radius turns.  It's been said plenty of times before, but it is a remarkable ski.

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