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Soul 7 or Super 7?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

Last year I demo'd the 2012 S7s which I loved in Utah's light  powder, but also hard pack.  I want to buy either the Soul 7s or Super 7s this year and it seems there is mixed reports on which one actually replaced the S7.  Does anyone know which of these will ski most similarly to the old S7s?

 

Thanks

Joe

post #2 of 14

Why not pick up an S7? You skied it and loved it, the new Rossignol skis, which many folks prefer, are very different.

 

The Super 7 is closer in width but it is 'more' ski, the Soul is similar in it's easy going demeanor but it's much narrower. I'd save some $$ and buy the ski I tried and loved.

post #3 of 14

You can get last years S7s for 50% off retail because they are discontinued.

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys.

 

Maybe I just got caught in the hype, but it seems the new 7 series has introduced technology and design that has solved some issues with the old S7 and everyone raves about skiing them, so that's why I planned on going that route.  I'm caught between the Soul which seems as playful as the S7 but with potentially less float and the Super which may not have the quick maneuverability as old.  Kinda just wanted to see if any S7 skiers on here had tried both.  

post #5 of 14

If you are only going to be skiing in soft powder, you should look at the Sin 7.  The Soul 7 is stiffer and would provide a higher level of performance if your were skiing it on firmer snow, but if the snow platform beneath it is soft powder, you might as well save some money.

post #6 of 14

I demod the Sin 7 and Soul 7 back to back.  Loved the Soul and didn't like the Sin at all, thought it felt squirrely.

post #7 of 14

OK then.  Here is the three step solution to your dilemma.

1) Divide the cost of the Soul 7 by the number of skiing days it is good for. 

2) Calculate the total cost of the skiing day (lift ticket, transportation, etc.)

3) Buy the Soul 7.

post #8 of 14

The Sin7 is the rebranded S3.  A lot of people really liked the S3, it never appealled to me.  I have had a pair of S7s for three seasons and have probably over 100 days on them.  I loved them at first.  I now wish they were stiffer, had a straighter wider tail, not so much rocker at the tip, and were not quite so wide.  I think I just described the Soul7.  I have a pair of Soul7s that I just got this season.  I demoed in calf deep slush last spring and I skied my new pair for a few runs this year and they were great, but I plan on not getting into them too much until we have a bit more snow.

 

I had a conversation with the Rossi rep last week.  The new Super7 with the aircore tips is much lighter and more nimble than the previous Super7.  The Soul7 is selling like crazy, but he told me that he thinks the new Super7 is probably the best powder ski option.

 

I'm thinking I will probably sell my S7s and maybe my E98s a bit later in this season.

post #9 of 14
I owned S3's for a while and didn't find the Sin7 to feel similar.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
 

The Sin7 is the rebranded S3.  A lot of people really liked the S3, it never appealled to me.  I have had a pair of S7s for three seasons and have probably over 100 days on them.  I loved them at first.  I now wish they were stiffer, had a straighter wider tail, not so much rocker at the tip, and were not quite so wide.  I think I just described the Soul7.  I have a pair of Soul7s that I just got this season.  I demoed in calf deep slush last spring and I skied my new pair for a few runs this year and they were great, but I plan on not getting into them too much until we have a bit more snow.

 

I had a conversation with the Rossi rep last week.  The new Super7 with the aircore tips is much lighter and more nimble than the previous Super7.  The Soul7 is selling like crazy, but he told me that he thinks the new Super7 is probably the best powder ski option.

 

I'm thinking I will probably sell my S7s and maybe my E98s a bit later in this season.

 

That's sort of my same impression, as well. I also have a pair of DPS 112RPs, which I bought to replace the S7s, and I thought the Soul 7s would seem like a less extreme version of those. It should be a good travel ski, too. I plan on selling one or the other -- can't decide yet, though.  I would like to ski them back to back.

post #11 of 14

The S3 is a noodle.  The Sin 7 is a lot stiffer.

post #12 of 14

Ghost or others who have tried both, how does the stiffness of the Soul 7 compare to the prior years S3?  I had the 186 S3 and found it to be a surprisingly good pow ski for its width, and very versatile, but the tips folded at speed in heavier snow and flapped like crazy on groomers with any sort of speed.  It was great in low speed tight trees and low angle pow though.  The Soul 7 looks like it could be an improved S3, but I am still a bit worried about it holding up it tracked or heavy snow at my size (205lbs) and about edgehold on hard groomers.

post #13 of 14

The Soul7 is nothing like the S3.  It is much stiffer and not nearly as rockered.  It is also fatter.

post #14 of 14

I've seen the specs and know that they are different with a flatter tail and less severe tip rocker, plus 1cm ish of  width.  I was curious how the stiffness compared,since the big rockered front of the S3 folded in heavier or deeper snow on my fat 210 lbs w gear self , and the edgehold on true ice was manageable if I used high edge angles but could have been better.   Having said that, because of the big rocker, even with the 98mm waist the S3 while manageable everywhere, was a very soft snow biased ski.  So I don't know how much would be lost in groomer/ice performance vs the Soul 7, while gaining a little float.

 

 Basically I wanted to see if anyone has a head to head comparison between the Soul 7, new Super 7, and the S3.

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