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Tecnica Cochise 90. Whose got em?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Just picked up a pair today. My Moment PB&J's arrived as well! :)

 

Anyways, I am not finding much for reviews on this boot. I understand that the flex index is a bit on the lighter side, even though I consider myself an advanced/expert skier, I guess I just dont see the need for a boot with a 120-130 index. The boots are very comfortable. Had tried on the 26.5 and 27.5's sizes. The 27.5's felt right, w/the 26.5's my toe was digging into the front of the boot. (I wear a size 10 shoe, but my foot measures out to be a 9-9.5).

 

I am just hoping that I made the right decision. I by no means stick to OOB's terrain regularly, no backcountry (live in the NE) and dont consider myself a real aggressive skier. What do y'all think?

post #2 of 12

I think you should read the wiki at the top of this forum, and it will help you to answer some of your questions.

 

 

flex:  depends on how big you are, but odds are they are too soft

 

size:  depends on how your like your boots to fit, but odds are they are too big.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 

Why do you say that?

 

I read the information in the links above, there is nothing their regarding flex index relating to weight. 

 

I weigh 195lbs. Again, 90 index. With the liner out, there is less than an inch btw my heel and the rear of the boot. 

post #4 of 12

195 pounds a 90 flex is a bit soft (on average)

 

5-15mm (or under 1/2 inch) is about right for a shell fit on a boot (on average)

 

but again, I might be HORRIBLY wrong on all this, and the boots might be perfect for you.

post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 

So I ended up bringing the 27.5's back in exchange for a pair of 26.5's. Tried em on again, and now that I have the available knowledge on what a ski boot SHOULD feel like at first sizing, I think I have made the right decision. I was also mentioned in another thread that it is almost impossible to buy to small of a boot. 

 

The flex index of 90 still has me a bit concerned, but honestly with buying both a set of marker griffons and a pair of moment PB&J's, I dont have the extra cash to shell out for a 120-130 flex index boot. I'm hoping that this does not inhibit performance. 

 

I also heard that Tecnica's flex index mimics 100-110's for most other companies, "so ya know, I got that going for me" (insert bill murray/caddy shack reference :). 

 

I actually pulled out my old boots earlier today, I knew that they were to big for me previous seasons, but I certainly didnt realize HOW big, nor pay nearly enough attention to the fact. I was wearing a 28.5 for 3 seasons! Doh!

post #6 of 12

There are boots in a 90 flex that are stiffer than other boots in a 90 flex.  However, since we use 90 flex boots for 110 pound race kids and 110 pound intermediate women I'm not certain I could find one suitable for any 195 lb man.

 

Lou

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 
Do you think it will inhibit performance/responsiveness for me?
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

It just does not make sense to me, that ski boots are be priced, based on a persons weight (Essentially). I.e. higher weight=higher flex index=more money. That is a constant with all manufacturers. 

post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by rdlynch2 View Post
 

It just does not make sense to me, that ski boots are be priced, based on a persons weight (Essentially). I.e. higher weight=higher flex index=more money. That is a constant with all manufacturers. 

 

rdlynch2,

 

after you make your first kagillion dollars, you can buy the entire ski industry outright, and change all of the rules of commerce to fit your beliefs. until that time however, i suggest you bite the bullet and buy equipment that is appropriate for your size, weight, and skiing style.

 

good luck in your quest. i hear the cost of goods and the way in which they are marketed are much better on mars, although it does cost a bit more to get there, maybe you can order online from mars and have them shipped shipped back to earth?;)

 

jim

post #10 of 12

If still not clear, what Jim is saying is "That is the way it is".  You need a stiffer boot for certain and it is going to cost you more.  If you don't want to pay it no problem just don't blame the lack of performance on your boots blame it on your unwillingness to accept the program.

 

But quickly why do you assume it doesn't cost more to make stiffer boots with better liners?

 

 

Lou

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lou Rosenfeld View Post
 

If still not clear, what Jim is saying is "That is the way it is".  You need a stiffer boot for certain and it is going to cost you more.  If you don't want to pay it no problem just don't blame the lack of performance on your boots blame it on your unwillingness to accept the program.

 

But quickly why do you assume it doesn't cost more to make stiffer boots with better liners?

 

 

Lou

I didn't assume that. I suppose I didn't know that manufacturing stiffer boots, costs most. Irregardless, I think you all will agree that fit is vastly more important, than appropriate flex rating, in all regards, no?

post #12 of 12

Fit is more important, but after that it is necessary they perform and since identical fits are available in multitudes of flexes it is possible to have both.

 

Lou

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