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Swix all in one sharpener?

post #1 of 13
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Saw this in store the other day, thought it's quite neat, 88/87° side edge, and 0.5/1° base edge. Plastic body may not be completely precise, but seems like an excellent tool to keep in pocket for deburr or quick touch up on the hill. Although it would be better if it had a diamond stone instead of file.

What do you think?

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post #2 of 13

SkiVisions makes one also.  So does Toko as well as others.  You can do a decent job with them.

 

Skivisions Ski Sharp Edge Tuning Tool

post #3 of 13
I got this one because it was the only thing giving me a 1.5 degree side edge bevel.

Not sure if the degrees apply to base edges, can't see how it would work, but that wasn't what I wanted.

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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I got this one because it was the only thing giving me a 1.5 degree side edge bevel.

1.5° huh? Any reason you use it as oppose to simply 1 or 2?
post #5 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I got this one because it was the only thing giving me a 1.5 degree side edge bevel.

Not sure if the degrees apply to base edges, can't see how it would work, but that wasn't what I wanted.

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I have the same tool.  There is adifferent slot for the file to bevel the base edge.  Works well.

post #6 of 13
I know about the slot, but what degree is the bevel for base work? Can't see where the dial impacts that slot.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I got this one because it was the only thing giving me a 1.5 degree side edge bevel.

1.5° huh? Any reason you use it as oppose to simply 1 or 2?

It's the factory tune on the Hell and Back. Tried taking it to a 1 like all my other skis, was okay, but my assessment of my experience with the ski on hard groomers was different than others'. Decided I should return it to the factory tune and see if my assessment changed for the better. Less of an impact than going to a 2, then changing my mind again. Thought I could ease into things.

And, no, I don't want to debate this with all you 4 and 5 degree guys. I'm also playing with tapered base bevels towards the tip and tail. The benefit of doing it yourself is being able to try things directly and see the results.
post #8 of 13

I have this tool, it seems to work fine but I am an amateur when it comes to tuning.  My fear setting the edges with something like this is consistency. I had a hard time making smooth passes and I felt like it was "digging" on some parts of the edge and not on others. I'm sure with practice it gets easier and better. On the hill the skis performed fine at 1 and 2.  Factory on my K2s is 1 and 1.5.

post #9 of 13

the original post mentions this isn't for setting the edges.  It's mainly for touchups and deburring.  

As an amateur tuner, I would say take it to the shop to get the edges set properly, then just use the tool in between tuneups.  

You should just be gliding it back and forth, with not too much pressure, so it just knocks off the burrs until smooth.  

 

You are correct to worry with such a small tool, that if you're using it to set a new edge angle, it''ll either take you forever to set an edge, or it'll be inconsistent with the pressure you have to apply.

post #10 of 13

All-in-one sharpeners just don't work that well.  You are better off buying real files (I have one steel and one chrome), diamond stones, and file guides (one for base, one for edge).  The outcome is way better.

post #11 of 13

Does anyone know what diamond files will fit in this Swix all in one sharpener? 

post #12 of 13

Look like it takes a 40mm long stone. Thickness appears to be critical since it's is a slip fit.

 

http://www.racewax.com/p-278-swix-diamond-stone-for-edge-tools-ta3002sd.aspx

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I know about the slot, but what degree is the bevel for base work? Can't see where the dial impacts that slot.

 



Just noticed your question (albeit a few weeks later) and couldn't resist responding.

I have this tool and I've used it extensively. Yes the angle-change option works for both the edge and the base. The stones / files placed in the edge and base slots do not move. What moves with the angle change is the wide platform that slides on top of your ski base. I'll try to explain it as best as I could without any graphics.

1) Edge - Increasing the angle knob (0 degrees to 3 degrees) basically lifts up the platform and effectively alters the edge angle where the stone / file is locked in. (You know this already.)

2) Base - Increasing the angle knob also lifts up the platform. In a zero degree choice, the platform is totally flush (even) with the stone / file (hence the zero degree). However, as you change the angle (lift the platform), effectively alters the relationship with the platform and the stone file slot.

I used this to set a base angle on an old set of rock skis. Out of curiousity I checked my base angles with a fixed bevel guide of 1 degree and it checked okay.

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